Posted on 10/06/2023 9:59:16 AM PDT by qaz123
Florida Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz will introduce legislation Thursday morning that would, among other things, prevent individuals from publicly disclosing whether they have a national security clearance.
The Daily Caller first obtained a copy of the bill, which is titled the “Security Clearance Revolving Door Act of 2023.” The legislation would classify the act of publicly disclosing a national security clearance as a federal misdemeanor, with a penalty of up to a year in prison and up to a $1,000 fine per offense.
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So, if you retire as a Flag Officer, SES, Agency head, or any other high level government position, your TSSCI or TSSA is rescinded the day you’re gone and you’re not eligible for one for 10years. But there could be carve outs for certain circumstances which are already built into the system. IE…any person can be granted access under certain conditions
Presidents can keep them for 4 years after leaving office. VP loses it the inauguration day of new admin.
Let’s see how many folks get hired to all the Corporate Boards when they don’t have the access anymore.
If, for some reason, one of these people needs to be talked to due to their expertise in a certain field, the person requesting the meeting submits a request, reason for the request and the entire meeting is recorded with audio and video.
If you’re not a flag officer, SES, etc and you need to keep a clearance then where ever you go, post government, it has to be in a Research & Development position, where you’ll be actively participating in the R&D and the prospective employer will submit why the clearance is needed.
Absolutely ZERO reason the Clintons, Mattis, Kelly, Comey, Obama, Clapper, Rice, Brennan ad whoever else has them to keep them. No one counsels with them. They’re just selling access to the most sensitive info.
I wonder if Boehner and Cantor still have one.
Violation is automatic revocation, to start.
Bingo
I lost my TS the day I retired which made sense to me since I also lost computer access anyway.
Most things classified are a joke anyway. I would get classified documents hot off the press and think, I read this on FR two weeks ago.
I really thought it was funny when I read a classified document where the intel drafter had copied a paragraph word for word from one of my documents which was not classified.
Intel analyst are some of the laziest people around.
It was a big plus on a resume for those leaving the military for civilian jobs. If you did need a clearance for the new job, it saved the employer and taxpayers big $$$ if you carried one. How will they know if you can't tell them??
Even for non-DoD related jobs like public safety and firefighters, some employers saw the clearance as a level of trust and responsibility desirable to them.
The legislation would classify the act of publicly disclosing a national security clearance. What does that even mean?
“Presidents can keep them for 4 years after leaving office.”
Presidents don’t have security clearances in the first place, so how can they keep them? Security clearances flow from the President down, not in the other direction.
They could start with Brennan, Crapper and Kerry.
"EXCEPTION.—It shall not be an offense under this section for an individual who has received a favorable adjudication specified in subsection (a) to include the fact of such favorable adjudication in connection with an application for a position of employment or for a governmental contract (or a subcontract thereof), where such favorable adjudication is a requirement for such employment or contract."
everybody loses their clearances and has to reapply stating their reason to have one
and it’s marked civilian on the ID card
So it appears the bill just protects those with clearances….
Most things classified are a joke anyway. I would get classified documents hot off the press and think, I read this on FR two weeks ago.
So true. I explained to an old supervisor of mine that you could declassify a document with a sharpie.
In other words, they are privacy to classified information for 4 years.
Not this nonsense that once President they’re cleared for life.
It was said that Soetero wouldn’t have been able to get one through traditional means.
So he left them an out. No Bueno
“In other words, they are privacy to classified information for 4 years.”
Ok, I’m not objecting to that. Just pointing out you can’t have their “security clearance” expire after 4 years because they never had one in the first place. You’d have to first give them one, when they leave office (because they don’t need one while in office), and then you could make that expire in 4 years.
Something like that.
If they need to be “consulted” it’s recorded.
For nongovernmental types, clearances are supposed to be tied to contracts where classified information is needed to do the work or the work in itself is classified. The system has long been abused by “elites” both retired military and civilian. The “elites” seem to retain their classified access as a curtsy for their past rank or civilian position. That needs to stop. However if I read Gaetz’s proposal correctly I would not be able to admit having a clearance or put it on my resume. That would be a problem for many people looking for jobs.
Of course Gaetz left them out. Not that it matters. This bill would never make it past the Senate let alone be signed into law by Biden. Bills are introduced every day with no hope of making it into law. They are introduced so the Members can go back to their districts and raise money and say “Look what I’m doing! I’m fighting corruption!” It’s just so silly.
Didn’t Joe recently reinstate Clapper and Brennan’s security clearance?
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