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“The Ukes are really Russian by a different name.”

This is inaccurate.

One of pre-war Russia’s most prosperous areas, the vast, flat Ukraine (the name can be translated as at the border or borderland) was one of the major wheat-producing regions of Europe as well as rich with mineral resources, including vast deposits of iron and coal. The majority of Ukraine was incorporated into the Russian empire after the second partition of Poland in 1793, while the remaining section—the principality of Galicia—remained part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and was a key battleground on World War I’s Eastern Front.

Immediately following the overthrow of the czar in February 1917, Ukraine set up a provisional government and proclaimed itself a republic within the structure of a federated Russia. After Vladimir Lenin and his radical Bolsheviks rose to power in November, Ukraine—like its fellow former Russian property, Finland—took one step further, declaring its complete independence in January 1918.

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This is inaccurate.

How dare you!

Go to your room! You know nothing!

Russia has a right to Ukraine, and Poland, and Finland, and even Germany and all of the surrounding and lands bordering Russia. If not for the U.S. Russian would own all of Europe and most of the middle-east, and even parts of Asia, including parts of China. It's the U.S. that has interfered with the rights of Russia to be the biggest and most respected power in the world.

So, shut it and leave the premises! ;)

“One of pre-war Russia’s most prosperous areas, the vast, flat Ukraine (the name can be translated as at the border or borderland) was one of the major wheat-producing regions of Europe as well as rich with mineral resources, including vast deposits of iron and coal.”

They still have all this, plus a well educated population and a large industrial base. Yet they are the poorest country in Europe. Something is really wrong there.

They know what they are saying is pure garbage, but I call it recentism. A condition where one only goes as far back in history to justify their position. France once controlled Moscow, so Moscow is actually French……

Putin has often lamented the fall of the Soviet Union and its control and power, that is his reference point. Everything else is irrelevant to them and nothing you can say will get them to change their position, facts and history be damned