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Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 09/17/2023 Vol.474, Q Day 2151
qalerts.app ^ | 9/17/2023 | FReeQs, FReepers, LurQers and Vanity

Posted on 09/17/2023 7:24:24 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: chuck allen
Why remove the post?

Because he is a polite Freeper who does not try disrupt a thread he's not interested in.

Unlike your own rude self.

121 posted on 09/17/2023 1:24:16 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: Bob Ireland

Compare the dates, contemporaneously.
Where are we in the gamePLAN?
Think mirror.
#gametheory


122 posted on 09/17/2023 1:26:04 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Cracker...)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

It’s rude to butt into a conversation you’re not involved in, no one pinged you for your 2 cents, which ain’t worth a nickel anyway.


123 posted on 09/17/2023 1:29:29 PM PDT by chuck allen
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To: deks
Have Fetterman’s public appearances improved lately?

No. I think it's him, too. Obviously had his ears trimmed but otherwise he's the same.

Exhibited in his sarcastic reply to Biden being impeached. Like a 4th grader.

124 posted on 09/17/2023 1:32:07 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: little jeremiah
We’re going to love how this movie ends.

We better. I'm afraid to go pee in case something happens. Please hurry.

125 posted on 09/17/2023 1:34:42 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: chuck allen
It’s rude to butt into a conversation you’re not involved in...

You posted on a public forum, moron. Erebody's involved.

126 posted on 09/17/2023 1:37:10 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: little jeremiah; Fury; chuck allen

re: “Nick [The Greatest Show On Earth] goes into the “US as a corporation” stuff. When that surfaced some years ago, I read all the actual documents it’s based on, and no go.

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In the opening credits it says “Based on the work of Derek Johnson”...who is he?

I stopped after the point where he says (at 5:50) “The US was placed under the crown of the 1871 Organic Act. The bar was quickly established thereafter, and what we know as the US democratic republic became a corporation.”

What other errors may have been included in this presentation as some have alluded to above?


128 posted on 09/17/2023 1:42:47 PM PDT by deks
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To: chuck allen
...no one pinged you for your 2 cents, which ain’t worth a nickel anyway.

I might be wrong here, but I think he'd have to put in 5 cents for it to be worth a nickel. Just sayin'

129 posted on 09/17/2023 1:44:41 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: All

And could we please keep the discussion civil?


130 posted on 09/17/2023 1:45:02 PM PDT by deks
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To: deks

It was totally civil until Tango had to butt in unprovoked.


131 posted on 09/17/2023 1:48:33 PM PDT by chuck allen
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To: chuck allen
Go eat some dog dewormer.

Already have. Goes well with a little horse dewormer.

132 posted on 09/17/2023 1:58:17 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: ransomnote
The Jon McNaughton scary adversary painting for Halloween! This artist does some of the best works of political art.


133 posted on 09/17/2023 1:58:27 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ransomnote; Disestablishmentarian; I_be_tc; rodguy911; defconw; meyer; outinyellowdogcountry; ...
A "Broken China" ping.


If you want on or off the ping list send me a FReepMail.

This Broken China Ping might get a bit long. There is a lot going on to unpack. This update will be long on economics and short on politics.

As many of you have noticed, there is great turmoil in the PRC economy. The most public part is the ongoing unraveling of the Housing Industry in China driven by the unfolding debt crisis. Of the top 50 Real Estate developers in the PRC, 34 are currently in at least technical default. The 16 survivors are facing $1.5B US in debt payments this month (September). These top 50 developers have approximately an additional $600B US in accounts payable to vendors. I doubt that more than 2/3 will ever be paid.

The price of new, i.e. pre-construction, housing units is falling. For August it was down 1.5% year-on-year. This wouldn't be so bad except that last August it was down 28.3% YOY. The housing resale market is thin in the major and secondary cities. It is VERY thin outside these cities.

The rise of Rotten-tale (abandoned) construction projects is leaving purchasers with no hope of receiving the housing they purchased while leaving them with mortgages to pay back to the banks. Some have been already paying on these mortgages for seven years. This is leading to a rise in mortgage loan defaults further destabilizing the banking industry.

Now add in the widespread availability of nearly completed housing. People are starting to just find a unit they like and finish it themselves whether they own it or not and live there for free. There are whole empty cities scattered around China.

So what is driving this? There is a simple one word answer: Demographics.

Historically, the single greatest driver in a nation's life or death is demographics. The second is national resources. China's history is replete with great cycles of population growth and collapse. Growth when there is good weather and peace (and damn little of that) followed by contraction caused by famine and/or war. The past 75 years have been among the best in Chinese history even with the famine caused by the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, and the One Child Policy. That is coming to an end.

Time out for a minor economic history lesson.
The single greatest advance in human history occurred with the start of the Industrial Revolution in Britain in the late 18th Century. Britain took close to seven generations to industrialize. They were the first and had to invent everything as they went. The US took five generations. Everyone else took less. The longer it took, the easier the societal adjustment. China did it in less than one generation. As a result, Britain, the US, and western Europe had the time to adjust and develop the economic consumption side in order to maintain the economic gains while mostly mitigating the social disruption. The big problem with using industrialization as a driver for your economy is that you only get to do it ONCE.

For those who would like a graphical representation of the change you can click here.

It shows the increase in world GDP over the past 2000 years. I moved the start date to 1700 but you can move it back. You will notice that the bulk of the growth has been since 1950 with the introduction of the Bretton Woods System. (Again, brought to you by the US Navy).

Bretton Woods allowed almost every nation to industrialize. Pre BW, if a country wanted to industrialize it had to have natural resources, capital, workers, technology, consumers, transportation systems, and a cooperative government. Post BW, a nation could trade its resources for what it lacked and then sell its production to consumers in other nations. This is exactly what China did. It imported raw material and sold finished products.

Sustainable economic development is a sequential process of market creation. No matter how late a nation starts its development it must repeat earlier stages to succeed. You cannot just skip it, jump forward directly from agricultural, primitive method of production to modern automobile assembly line. If you do that it is not sustainable. Henry Ford paid his workers more than other industrialists not because he was a good guy but because he wanted his workers to be able to buy the cars he was making. He created a market for what he sold. You can see what that did for the US economy.

The biggest thing the Industrial Revolution did was to decouple national wealth from military conquest. When there is damn little for everyone the only way to get more is to take it from someone else. To their everlasting glory, Britain and the US invented the ability to MAKE money where there was none before. Wealth creation became a function of technology advance and trade rather than conquest.

This feat is all the more impressive when you consider that world per-capita GDP has increased at the same time as the greatest population expansion in world history. The poorest in America live almost as well as the nobility of England did 500 years ago.

I hear you muttering, "OK, LP, how does this relate to what's going on in China?"

Good question. The PRC has failed to develop a large enough consumer base to hold on to the economic gains as the pace of industrialization slackens. They tried to skip steps. The CCP, has refused to permit enough personal independence to allow for the innovation necessary. The PRC is dependent on other nations for innovation, materials, markets, and FOOD. Their demographic collapse, for that is what it is, will mean that there will be NO soft landing for the PRC economy. This is about as bold a prediction as you will ever see me make.

I think that's enough for today. I've used my economics degree more in the past month and a half writing these updates to y'all than I have in the past 45 years.

WWG1WGA

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

134 posted on 09/17/2023 2:11:39 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: HippyLoggerBiker
I'm on it.

WWG1WGA

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

135 posted on 09/17/2023 2:13:18 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

One of the consequences of what you have enumerated is that dying nations become predatory.


136 posted on 09/17/2023 2:18:11 PM PDT by Publius
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To: LonePalm
***To their everlasting glory, Britain and the US invented the ability to MAKE money where there was none before***

The secret to all! (...as I explained to my son early on. Rush used to teach this constantly!) OTOH, it must be monitored and kept free of greed and exploitation. Now greedy carpetbaggers have substituted govt growth for economic growth. Too few middle class seem to realize this and they are disappearing to the potential downfall of the nation.

Excellent post!

137 posted on 09/17/2023 2:33:18 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: LonePalm

Excellent read, as always. Thanks, LP


138 posted on 09/17/2023 2:41:45 PM PDT by defconw
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To: LonePalm
I think that's enough for today. I've used my economics degree more in the past month and a half writing these updates to y'all than I have in the past 45 years.

Appreciate you for it.

139 posted on 09/17/2023 3:01:58 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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140 posted on 09/17/2023 3:02:35 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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