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To: Rocco DiPippo
The many "Denys types" on these "daily amen™" threads play a variety of rhetorical games because getting an opponent to follow a mis-direction is an old stratagem. Continual repetition is another. The aim is consistent - justify spending on war. In this case, a non-NATO war between non-NATO nations....

The enormous US debt is slowly collapsing much in these United States, while the supporters of spending US funds on continuing war blithely cheer the ISW lobbyists. This is the neocon/neolib theme, consistent from year to year.

"At the last count America's Federal Reserve had a paper loss of $911bn on its $8.2trn securities portfolio." In "Quantitative easing cost hundreds of billions. Was it worth it?" Economist 31 June 2023.

Source: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/07/31/quantitative-easing-cost-hundreds-of-billions-was-it-worth-it

$ 32,918,978,453,354 and rapidly rising. -- 9/13/2023

$ 32,923,893,553,629 and rapidly rising. -- today.

US Debt Clock

Whether Ukraine wins or Russia wins, Europe is moving into recession and these United States are burdening our children and grandchildren with, as the Debt Clock graphic shows, more than $254,000 per taxpayer. This relegates our next generations into one of two classes: 1) government dependency and therefore unable to repay the growing debt, or 2) taxpaying and taking on a burden not made by themselves.

The phase of some historical meaning to Americans, "taxation without representation." Generational taxation, spending tomorrow on a giant credit card.

These are things I find about the "daily amen™" thread.

1) the promotion of a small number of monetized YouTube channels,

2) the reprinting of a "glorious leader's" speeches as if people actually read them,

3) the echo chamber of much in the UK media, which serves a fading ex-colonial nation importing enough of the 3rd world as to have its capital led by a Muslim, and the CoE now getting about 1 percent support from its own "English,"

4) rarely any middle stance, as the proponents of this thread attempt to paint all who disagree with them as "pro" Putin,

5) precious little cogent debate, but rather a lot of "moderator" activity which is definitely not a feature of most other threads.

I suspect, behind it all, lies ideological agreement with the Biden-Blinken-Nuland foreign policy, draped in a pretend "conservatism."

As you comment to me, I shall respond. Many others on this thread are not genuine conservative interlocutors in a free forum of ideas.

54 posted on 09/13/2023 3:34:11 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Repetition? Ok, why don’t you complain about the zillionth times the same stupid memes and cartoons are posted by the Putin tools, that eat up FR bandwidth?

At least “Mom” (I think that’s who y’all are primarily complaining about) posts almost all new articles and vids from varying pro-ukie sources, each day. Obviously there is overlap between those sources, but you are free to skip said overlap, and, as text, it eats up minimal FR bandwidth. For that matter, those who don’t like “Mom’s” posts don’t have to read them in the 1st place. Myself, I simple don’t have time to more than skim them most times; occasionally hitting something of interest. Somewhat the same goes for the more obvious Pooty tools - if I see something ridiculous in the first few lines, I skip it, and certain posters who’ve wasted too much of my time in the past (”we’ve destroyed 3x the number of HIMARS even sent to Ukraine!”) I pass on as well.

“4”?

No, I think we also have a number of people who go foolishly overboard in the isolationist direction. (I prefer the fictional Edith Keeler, at least she was depicted as a sweet person.)

Add to those the people who appear to have literally gone off their rockers with Biden taking office, and somehow think this country is the new evil. I hearken back to 1964, when many a good conservative, like my Grandma, nearly had a nervous breakdown when Johnson was announced to have won. The US survived Johnson, and Vietnam, and Nixon / Watergate and Carter, and just 20 years later was beginning a great resurgence...

We also have a great many who hate Biden so much that they think ANYTHING he or his administration says or does, or anything that even comports with “The West” is wrong.

Well, heck, as regards Biden, it IS hard to find much to like, even regarding Ukraine, as Biden’s weak stream of popgun weapons (only slightly modified by allowing countries with a few F-16’s to donate a dribble of planes) gives the Russian leadership false hope of an acceptable outcome and will result in many more casualties in the end.

I’d also prefer the US concentrate on weapons and humanitarian aid, and tell the Euro’s to handle the financial side.

So, I guess I can’t find much to support Biden on, either.

Er... Well, I suppose until recently, Biden had not messed up too many medal ceremonies...?


76 posted on 09/13/2023 9:36:37 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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