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New Angle of 2nd Plane Attack on 9/11 (Citizen Free Press - Video was mistakenly marked private for 21 years, no one saw it. Full length version)
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Posted on 09/11/2023 5:09:05 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: FamiliarFace
I remember watching the coverage on the Today Show as I was getting up to go to work (California).

What struck me was that the camera was focused on the burning tower while Matt Lauer was talking and you could see the second plane way off in the distance -- a tiny dot, really.

As the NBC commentators kept talking, the plane kept getting closer and closer. At that point I began to suspect that the second plane was going to hit the building too, because I would have thought that air traffic control would have shut down the NYC airspace after the first collision. The fact that this plane was still flying meant, to me, that it was not following ATC instructions.

That's what I recall, anyway.

-PJ

21 posted on 09/12/2023 1:24:56 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

You’re spot on.


22 posted on 09/12/2023 4:43:50 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

They did not miss.

They were aiming the wing into the building to deliver the fuel load. That made fuel penetrate the building further.

Someone engineered the attack for maximum results.

They tried before, on the elevator shaft. Remember.

I will not tell you what I told my wife when she saw the first plane hit the building. In the past when I told people here some called me a liar. But I am not.


23 posted on 09/12/2023 4:47:55 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: rxsid

Thank you for linking this.


24 posted on 09/12/2023 4:58:40 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: NNN

I’ve said what I think 1000 times. Read my posting history.


25 posted on 09/12/2023 6:48:41 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: rxsid

I remember a comment I made to a relative who lived on Manhattan, who mentioned those who had died on that day.

I said, “a lot more will die before this is over”. Sadly, I was right.


26 posted on 09/12/2023 6:58:14 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“The plane disappears into the building and no debris sliding down the side of the building.”

The plane was going upwards of 400mph, it disintegrated upon impact. There’s all kinds of fine debris raining down the side of the building. It wasn’t going to be like Wile E. Coyote smacking against a canyon wall and sliding down into a heap.


27 posted on 09/12/2023 7:40:10 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: PLMerite

Re: 27 - There’s quite a few conspiracy theorists, some ignorant, some low intellect, some malicious.

They can’t argue the NIST reports, the simulations, etc. What they provide are speculation, whispers, conjecture. Why? That’s all they have.


28 posted on 09/12/2023 8:08:15 AM PDT by Fury
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To: PLMerite

If it disintegrated on impact how did it penetrate the building and start a fire hot enough to melt steel? See how that theory doesn’t work either?


29 posted on 09/12/2023 9:24:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: madison10

I was at the Kansas City airport waiting for my flight to go to Washington Reagan airport. The news commentator said it was a small plane that crashed into the world trade center before it was corrected. So you heard it right at the time it happened


30 posted on 09/12/2023 10:19:07 AM PDT by ncfool (America has died we are living in the united socialist states of aMeriKa)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Fury
G.G. The video shows the plane and its full fuel load smashing into the building. Any disintegrating plane parts are initially not visible because they are inside and obscured by the ignited fuel air mixture. Note that the area the plane is striking has spaces between the exterior frame that contain the windows. Go to (1:09) and you see debris falling, but neither one of us can say for certain if it is from the plane or the building contents.

At 500 MPH or so the plane is not hitting a SOLID wall of steel. The mass of the plane drives into and cuts through the external framework and most of the the fuselage and wings is driven through the opening.

If you are interested here is a computer visualization showing the damage from the airplane strike on the building frame:

U Purdue Computer visualization of 9/11 strike

Here is information posted here on F/R on a number of things including the effect of heat on steel over time. (It deforms and loses strength and sags.)

FR post re Building 7 NISA report and other info

31 posted on 09/12/2023 10:35:00 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Pete I appreciate your earnestness but sadly what we all witnessed on 911 was more than likely Project Blue Beam which created holographic images of planes striking the towers as explosives were detonated.

Just for the sake of curiosity you and other Freepers might want to watch today’s podcast of And We Know on Rumble. Its hard to accept that your own govt killed 3,000 people so that they could go into Iraq and take control of the oil, pass the Patriot Act and bring us all closer to a one world govt of socialism/totalitarianism. Its just easier to believe it was 9 dumbazz muslims that flew commercial airliners like F16’s.


32 posted on 09/12/2023 11:06:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Fury
G.G.2 For your consideration. Here is view that clearly shows the plane slicing through the building and plane parts ejected out the other side. (Video has 18 views. I am starting from the Chris Hopewell video. I did not view every one of these videos. )

18 Views of Plane Impact in South Tower

Also an extended view of video taken by Cynthia Wells: I started at about the time of the 2nd strike. There is sound and you can hear the plan approaching and then the sound of impact. I do not see demolition explosives producing the explosion that follows the strike. This is a fuel/air explosion.

Cynthia Wells Video 9/11

(Laying aside this history and returning to our current interesting times.)

33 posted on 09/12/2023 11:09:53 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Pete planes don’t slice through buildings and eject out the other side. I have stated this numerous times. They are constructed of aluminum. My husband used to build these planes for Boeing in Seattle. He also worked on AF1. And he was a multi engine rated pilot up to a 737.

Have you ever seen the damage a goose strike does to the nose of an airliner? If a forklift even taps a wing there is severe damage. These towers were advertised as the strongest buildings ever constructed.

I think there is what we saw and then what we really saw. Looking at it without emotion and with a critical eye what we saw were explosions.

Millions of people now believe that 911 was not a Muslim terrorist attack. I am one of them. You will have to make up your own mind. But I doubt that anyone who knows airplane construction will tell you airliners can slice through a reinforced steel building. But a holographic image can make it look that way.


34 posted on 09/12/2023 11:29:24 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
G.G.2 Thanks for your reply!

I have no problem imagining that people in the U.S. Government might kill their own citizens. They have done this before.

(Wait! Only 2 pilots!)

If a hologram, why did they find plane parts?

Hundreds of airplane fragments

(Off to my garden!)

35 posted on 09/12/2023 11:36:08 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Huh? The only things that “rejected out the other side” were the engines, made of titanium and nickel alloys, and the landing gear, made of steel.


36 posted on 09/12/2023 11:38:13 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

*ejected


37 posted on 09/12/2023 11:39:17 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

As Mr. GG2 always says why weren’t all the engines of the planes lying in the street? They would not have disintigrated.

Its just too bad 3,000 people died.


38 posted on 09/12/2023 11:41:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“But a holographic image can make it look that way.”

This is sick. I knew and worked with people who were killed and injured, many others had to run for their lives. The people I talked to that survived heard and felt the impact.


39 posted on 09/12/2023 12:13:54 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

The NIST reports and data including simulations are available. So are reports from some engineering schools.

The idea that what tens/hundreds of thousands of people saw hitting the WTC structures were holograms is part of a fringe conspiracy theory that has no basis in fact. There is no detailed report available that can be subjected to scrutiny.

Unsourced and speculative. But it’s par for the course for some posters.


40 posted on 09/12/2023 12:16:15 PM PDT by Fury
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