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To: devere

OK. We will have to agree to disagree. I note you don’t refer to the writings by Carroll on the other men who assaulted her and she doesn’t know the season or the year of this very unbelievable incident. She didn’t scream didn’t tell anyone in the store.

The whole thing is baloney by a writer who at one point mused about how to take down Trump.
One of the friends who says she can corroborate E. Jean Carroll’s rape allegation against former President Donald Trump was questioned about an email she sent Carroll in 2017, in which she said Trump must be stopped and asked her friend to “scheme.”

While asking about how Carroll developed her book, which marked the first time she made that startling accusation, Trump’s lead defense attorney pointed out an exchange she had with a close friend, the fellow journalist Carol Martin.

“This has to stop,” Martin suggested in a Sept. 23, 2017 email about Trump. “As soon as we’re both well enough to scheme, we must do our patriotic duty again.”

“TOTALLY!!! I have something special for you when we meet,” Carroll responded.

Two weeks later, Carroll started a cross-country road trip to gather material for an upcoming book in 2019 about nasty men—one that ultimately included a bombshell account of Trump allegedly raping Carroll in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman.

The incident allegedly occurred in the fall of 1995 or spring of 1996, and Carroll still has the coat dress she claims to have worn that day. She claims Trump asked her for help with a gift and then allegedly lunged at her in a dressing room before forcibly penetrating her. Right!

In her new essay, Carroll recounts how she was allegedly assaulted by her waterfront director at Girl Scout Camp, Cam Parks, after winning the beauty pageant at age 12.

‘[Cam] takes me out in a boat and runs his hands under my shirt and up my shorts. He is breathing and moving his hand slowly and hotly, and I fight no battles in my head. My mind goes white. This is Cam,’ writes Carroll.

It is unconscionable that such a charge can be brought 20 years after the fact with no chance to interrogate witnesses, no contemporaneous reporting to authorities. No date, month or year. This should have been thrown out of court for lack of evidence not left to a jury to decide it is a chance to get Trump. This is banana republic level.

And this nutcase is besties with Mary Trump
Renowned authors E. Jean Carroll and Mary Trump have joined forces to embark on a surprising literary journey: co-writing a steamy romance novel. Shedding their familiar roles as political commentators, Carroll and Trump aim to provide readers with an enticing escape. It’s an unexpected collaboration with a commitment to avoiding political discussions in a unique offering.

According to The New York Times, Carroll expressed her excitement, saying, “I think we are going to have some very delicious scenes, as only Mary can describe them, so they’re going to be a little weird, but trust me, there are going to be some erotic scenes.” This collaboration promises to ignite readers’ imaginations and introduce them to a different side of these acclaimed authors.


202 posted on 09/09/2023 11:41:20 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: JayGalt

I remember reading during the trial that Carroll and her witnesses got together to make sure their stories matched.


203 posted on 09/09/2023 11:46:48 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (Vim vi repellere licet)
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To: JayGalt

The whole case was and is preposterous. But Trump lost and on top of this his bad-mouthing behavior is costing him more money and more court time. I still think problem first was not taking this seriously and hiring the best attorneys, second, not getting it moved, and third, running his mouth. It’s almost like he wanted to lose.


205 posted on 09/09/2023 11:50:04 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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To: JayGalt

That’s all very interesting, but also raises the question as to why Trump and his attorneys didn’t present that information in court? Do you have evidence that they attempted to do so and were stopped by Judge Kaplan?

Absent such evidence, which would be very good grounds for an appeal, I am left with two possibilities:

(1) Trump did it and is liable for his actions.

(2) Trump is actually innocent, but he and his chosen attorneys are seriously incompetent.

Possibility (2) may be reason to have sympathy for Trump, but not to vote for him to become President again. He’s the man who hired Wray & Barr, and perhaps he doesn’t do any better when hiring lawyers to defend himself.


210 posted on 09/09/2023 12:05:04 PM PDT by devere
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