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A Salmon Glut Has Sent Prices Plunging, and Economists Don’t Know When They’ll Recover
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| August 28, 2023
| Brian Venua
Posted on 08/29/2023 6:17:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Veto!
Took the words right off my keyboard.
To: tinamina
My father was a fisherman in Alaska and they had to quit years ago because Russia was fishing too close to our shores with huge processing ships. 3 miles. Then Congress passed a law saying 12 miles is the limit and things got better. I don’t know that things can get better.
Please reference my post #39 right below yours, then read this:
The biggest enemy for salmon production is illegal fishing by the Chinese. Until the whole Ukraine thing started the Russians had actually (finally!) started to play along with international regs meant to keep salmon fishing sustainable, recognizing that it was in their own best [long term] interests. But since Ukraine kicked off, they've adopted an intransigent Cold-War "up yours" attitude that hurts us, will hurt them in the long run, and ultimately just empowers lawless Chinese fishers using kilometers-long nets on the high seas that wipe out entire runs. So frustrating.
4 years ago I'd have called the Russians enemies in terms of N. Pacific fisheries, yet only 2 years ago I'd have called them allies.
Now it's back to enemies, and for crappy reasons as well...
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posted on
08/29/2023 7:44:44 PM PDT
by
verum ago
(I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
To: dfwgator
“There’s nothing resembling a “Free Market” these days. Big Business is in bed with government.”
Absolutely, corporatism is not free market.
43
posted on
08/29/2023 7:47:01 PM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: nickcarraway
Great! I live off these many days anyway, one of the healthiest things you can eat.
To: nickcarraway
Salmon, tasty and healthy, yum!
45
posted on
08/29/2023 7:48:52 PM PDT
by
reg45
(Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
To: Openurmind
Corporatism is actually much closer to the way Communist countries were run, than so-called “Capitalist economies”
46
posted on
08/29/2023 7:51:20 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: Openurmind
So you think there’s a “fish cartel”, that fixes the price of fish, and then poor Biden gets blamed? LOL
Wouldn’t you feel more at home on Democratic Underground? It seems to me that your “business” may be selling the idea of government control of everything, to stop those imaginary price gougers.
8 months ago eggs were selling for $4 per dozen around me, and this week I bought a dozen eggs for 96 cents. The free market works superbly well, and I infer that there is no egg cartel.
Fish spoils easily, and it’s difficult to get it from the fisherman to market, so I can see why retail prices are much higher than wholesale. But you have inspired me to shop more for fresh fish, so thank you for that. I found a couple of new fish markets near me to check out.
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posted on
08/29/2023 7:52:04 PM PDT
by
devere
To: chrisinoc
I’ll take Halibut cheeks all day every day.
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posted on
08/29/2023 7:52:22 PM PDT
by
showme_the_Glory
(No more rhyming, and I mean it.........)
To: sasquatch
lol- the northern coasts are brutally cold/damp- bone chilling-
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posted on
08/29/2023 8:06:31 PM PDT
by
Bob434
To: devere
“So you think there’s a “fish cartel”, that fixes the price of fish, and then poor Biden gets blamed?”
No, the corporations fix prices and they use government to help them do it. There is runaway market manipulation right now. Covid was an opportunity the greedy just could not pass up to manipulate markets. And as they price gouge they have no problem at all if Biden gets ALL the blame.
I have been a conservative small businessman all my life. But apparently it looks like I am one of the few “honest and fair” businessmen left. The way to fix this greed is for the customers to wise up and stop falling for these price fixing and gouging deceptions. Stop blindly paying the gouging scam. Reduced “Demand” alone will reset the market and help repair the economy whether Biden likes it or not.
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posted on
08/29/2023 8:07:34 PM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: dfwgator
“Corporate Communism” is a real thing... It goes well beyond fascism.
51
posted on
08/29/2023 8:09:51 PM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Openurmind
The Marxist-Leninists finally figured out, that if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.
52
posted on
08/29/2023 8:11:51 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: Golden Eagle
I prefer Midwest salmon.
53
posted on
08/29/2023 8:11:59 PM PDT
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
To: Openurmind
I agree with you. Have been watching them do it to the Dungeness crab fishermen for years.
54
posted on
08/29/2023 8:12:04 PM PDT
by
Lurkina.n.Learnin
(The road to tyranny is paved with compliance )
To: nickcarraway
Yeah that global warming helping fish make too many babies, too much food, climate change gonna kill us yet.
To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
I am close to the Beef industry, and they have also been “fattening the middlemen” for a long time now. Giving the rancher almost nothing to profit from and gouging the retailers also reducing their profit.
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posted on
08/29/2023 8:18:55 PM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: All

Wild Alaskan Sockeye Salmon, Slow Roasted w/ Tomatoes and
Black Olives, Garnished w/ Lemons and Chopped Tarragon.
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posted on
08/29/2023 8:22:55 PM PDT
by
Liz
(More tears are shed over answered prayers than over unanswered ones. St Teresa of Avila)
To: DoodleBob
That looks like BACON! I would not recommend that! Probably more expensive than my canned smoked salmon, too. And I’d call the smoked salmon equally delicious.
To: ought-six
Yep, just check that label for the sourcing & where processed...
A little while back I picked up a 32 oz. package of salmon at Wally World. I don’t recall exactly, but it seemed to be a good price. Then I looked at the label - fish from Russia, processed in China. I dropped it like it was radioactive. Maybe it was.
It’s bad enough that in many US waters, now, most of the mercury blew over from China. Luckily, that’s partially because we’ve really reduced mercury pollution in the US. But I stay away from ANY food sourced in China.
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posted on
08/29/2023 8:41:58 PM PDT
by
Paul R.
(You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
To: MomwithHope
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posted on
08/29/2023 8:44:29 PM PDT
by
Paul R.
(You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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