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How Was the “98% Success Number” for Bear Spray Computed?
AmmoLand ^ | August 22, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/27/2023 6:29:24 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: Big Red Badger

Being born and raised on the edge of Smoky Mtns Nat’l Park, I didn’t worry much about black bears, but the times I HAVE been out in the west, I always carried the Ruger...


21 posted on 08/27/2023 7:35:52 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: DannyTN

Dolphins,,,
That brings a whole new set of challenges.


22 posted on 08/27/2023 7:35:57 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: marktwain

I would bet bear spray works great against a curious or young bear. I’ll bet it makes an aggresive bear bent on attacking really mad.


23 posted on 08/27/2023 7:37:57 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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I would bet bear spray works great against a curious or young bear. I’ll bet it makes an aggresive bear bent on attacking really mad.

What I have observed, in studying the subject, is bears who are seeing a person as prey, are not as concerned with bear spray. They retreat, but then they come back, sometimes multiple times. If a bear keeps coming back, it is likely interested in you as prey. One of the great advantages of firearms is the bear is usually killed. Then it cannot come back, and is removed from the gene pool.

As bears who have a tendency to view people as prey are removed from the gene pool, bears who avoid people tend to dominate the gene pool. All species of bears in North America have shown this effect. Even polar bears were commonly avoiding human hunters by 1914.

24 posted on 08/27/2023 7:55:23 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
As bears who have a tendency to view people as prey are removed from the gene pool, bears who avoid people tend to dominate the gene pool. All species of bears in North America have shown this effect. Even polar bears were commonly avoiding human hunters by 1914.

There is/has been a trend in the last few decades to "protect" predators. It used to be that people would routinely kill wolves or cougars or bears because you couldn't be sure if one day that animal would attack you, your pets, your children or your livestock. That changed to "we need to protect those animals". Like you said, predators had a cultivated fear of humans. But that is now gone for the most part.

25 posted on 08/27/2023 8:03:46 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: marktwain

98% of bears prefer the taste of bear spray?


26 posted on 08/27/2023 8:07:34 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: marktwain

How Was the “98% Success Number” for Bear Spray Computed?


By surveying bear scat ...


27 posted on 08/27/2023 8:11:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: marktwain

How about if I just toss a breakable jar filled with honey?


28 posted on 08/27/2023 8:11:57 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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How about if I just toss a breakable jar filled with honey?

Well, then you might distract ...


29 posted on 08/27/2023 8:16:34 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.)
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To: marktwain

I’ve heard the Groom Creek attack may have some kind of previous interaction between the 365 lb healthy bear and the older man enjoying his morning coffee but have yet to find ‘Official’ data.


30 posted on 08/27/2023 8:21:05 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Most excellent


31 posted on 08/27/2023 8:31:32 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: technically right

I’d bet 100%.


32 posted on 08/27/2023 8:57:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: marktwain

Where I live, tourists carry bear spray. Locals carry a major caliber firearm.


33 posted on 08/27/2023 9:24:12 AM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat FARMED FISH.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

“I thought it was calculated by the bears.”

You are correct. They randomly sent surveys to bears in the woods asking their opinion of the best bear sprays they have encountered and tabulated the answers to come up with the definitive number of the success rate of spray versus firearm usage. Government paid for the survey and the people that did it moved to Tahiti.

wy69


34 posted on 08/27/2023 9:40:42 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Big Red Badger

Digging a little finds that David Montano dispatched the Bear with a ‘30-30’ rifle.
Mr.Johnson died from the mauling and the bear also from two shots, one at the base of it’s scull and one heart-lung area.


35 posted on 08/27/2023 9:45:20 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: BlueLancer

I thought Winnie the Pooh was banned and cancelled.


36 posted on 08/27/2023 9:52:02 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: marktwain

I’m sticking with my Glock 20 loaded with Buffalo Bore 220 gr. That’s the go-to combination in Alaska for bear protection.


37 posted on 08/27/2023 10:33:27 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: AndyJackson

> How about if I just toss a breakable jar filled with honey?

Depends who you toss it at.


38 posted on 08/27/2023 10:33:47 AM PDT by Do_Tar (Do I really need a /joke?)
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To: AlaskaErik

I seriously thought about going to a Hi-Capacity Semiautomatic...But revolvers have several advantages for me.
Springfield Echelon was calling.
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Point and pull trigger ‘Bang’!
No ‘Bang’ ?
Philly Reload.


39 posted on 08/27/2023 11:09:32 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: JBW1949

Ditto, I am now in your beautiful neck of the woods. I love hiking here. One option was moving to idaho, having Grizzlies anywhere near would scare the heck out of me. I wouldn’t even dare go hiking. They are totally different animal, as you said.


40 posted on 08/27/2023 11:31:24 AM PDT by CottonBall (“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power" – Mussolini)
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