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Florida utilities charging customers for all expenses on top of charging for the electricity sold to consumers

Posted on 08/26/2023 7:57:06 AM PDT by 4Runner

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To: I got the rope
Kill the CO2 endangerment Finding...but no...you’d rather farmers then our food in to fuel. Stupid.

I believe you are mistaken.

Trump did more to rein in the EPA than any other President, ever.

41 posted on 08/26/2023 10:00:54 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: The Old Hoosier

It never ceases to amaze, how many classless, clueless, adolescents have more money than they know what to do with.


42 posted on 08/26/2023 10:12:51 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: wild74

DeSantis? Hah hah. Where is you Florida Governor? The people under him are being the Governor. Ron is busy botching up his already failed campaign.


43 posted on 08/26/2023 10:16:27 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 4Runner

Grow the F** up. Rate increases are approved by legislature. Take your whinging to them.

Unless the utility is state owned it has a right to profit. How they tie that profit to revenue streams(e.g., 1% there, 1.2% over there, etc) is irrelevant. How much total profit they get is approved by legislature.


44 posted on 08/26/2023 10:25:33 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: 4Runner
The nature of utilities -- a natural monopoly -- had the public policy consequence of regulation based on the so-called "regulatory compact" that assures a reasonable rate of return for shareholders on their invested capital in exchange for limiting that rate of return and close scrutiny and regulation of expenses and service policies.

For complicated reasons, Florida's Public Service Commission has tended to be politically accommodating to investor owned utilities. State law otherwise gives Florida's municipally owned utilities an even freer hand. This tends to assure service but, at times, with inadequate scrutiny of costs charged against consumers. The new way of describing those costs is not a problem though so long as those costs are kept in line.

Notably, in order to harden the state against hurricane damage, Florida is now pushing electric and cable utilities to bury many of their local transmission lines. This is an expensive but popular undertaking and provides a rough measure that service charges by the state's utilities are considered bearable.

45 posted on 08/26/2023 10:31:09 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: 4Runner

Who else would pay for that and how would they pay it? Part of being a regulated utility and being required to follow a lot of government regulations no other industry has is being guaranteed a certain rate of return. Even with deregulation, those concepts are still generally present.

Historically, utilities have usually had a lower rate of return than private, unregulated companies in other businesses. But they are often called the preferred stocks for “widows and orphans.” Why why is that? Because though the rate of return is fairly low, it is virtually guaranteed to be there. Now with deregulation or partial deregulation in some states, utilities have competition. But they still have to make enough money to operate and pay dividends.


46 posted on 08/26/2023 11:31:13 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: katana

“Economics is only hard for Leftists and Journalists.”

Apparently there are quite a number of FReepers that are leftists and journalists. :^)

After the awesome response I saw by FPL after Hurricane Ian I have no complaints about my electrical service nor it’s cost.


47 posted on 08/26/2023 11:52:23 AM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: AndyJackson

You got it!


48 posted on 08/26/2023 2:04:29 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: dkGba

Duke is building expensive BS solar panel farms.

I don’t recall us rate-payers getting asked to vote for this sort of expensive boondoggle.


49 posted on 08/26/2023 3:54:25 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: bobbo666
Grow the F** up.

Hey, newbie from CaCaLand, ESAD.

Seems to me the child in this room is YOU. You haven't got the guts to be an OP and never will. You just hit and run. Go back to your leftwing chatrooms and porn sites.

50 posted on 08/26/2023 3:55:50 PM PDT by 4Runner
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To: 4Runner

And you all want DeSantis in the White House?


You’d better hope DeSantis is in the White House because he is the only person that can keep Trump out of jail.


51 posted on 08/26/2023 4:37:11 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Jacquerie

Everything the greed controlled or government controlled corporations OR everything the government does nowadays- all are done by coercion or force. Don’t want us to put smart meter that may endanger your health? Then pay us 25$ a month to not do it; don’t want an unnecessary harmful vaccine? That’s ok, but now you can’t work; don’t want to use electronic money? That’s ok, your “choice “ but now you can’t buy food or seek any healthcare. Since the Covid impositions began, I have never understood why a legal defense has never been initiated by any of the few advocating legal entities based on coercion. In any other aspect of life bribery, threats, coercion is a crime.


52 posted on 08/27/2023 7:38:10 AM PDT by dkGba
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