[Farmerbob]

Pick any map you want. Doesn’t change the facts.

[BlackbirdSST]

Doesn’t change the facts.

Propaganda is not facts bob. It doesn't matter how many colorful maps CNN shows.

[EnderWiggin1970]

My understanding is Washington's forces have not even reached the first line of defenses (i.e., Robotyne was in FRONT of the first Russian line of defense). The Ukraine/NATO forces are getting gunned down just trying to reach the defensive line.

It's like invaders trying to seize a castle - they are getting shot down before even reaching the base of the wall at this point.