Posted on 08/26/2023 6:33:24 AM PDT by ganeemead
Danny Haiphong's take on the situation...
I believe I picked up this information while looking at very recent articles I saw at the FR Search bar for Prigozhin, Wagner, Belarus, Russia, and/or Ukraine. I have not Googled it, but they are often a day or two behind the raw news articles posted here at FR. It might also have been something recently posted at one of RevMom’s recent daily posts.
See comment 201, I think it is my explanation, but my Chromebook is slower than a dying snail, and I have to go do something, so cannot check at this time.
Last reports I saw/heard said about 5,000 in Africa, Chad, Sudan, maybe CAR and Niger. Don’t know about Syria, but they certainly have been there before.
The shawoman has or at least believes she has some sort of a license to lie, similar to James Bond’s license to shoot people....
Most analysis I have read indicates that production cuts by Saudi Arabia and Russia are the main factor boosting global oil prices. As for refining, 95+ degrees in Texas in August sounds pretty normal to me. But maybe TX FReepers can weigh in. Were a lot of records broken for many days?
Those excessively low prices you mention were a side effect of COVID and the shutdowns. Therefor it’s really not “fair” to compare the current high oil / gas prices to “COVID prices”. What IS fair is to compare gas prices in the last few months to prices when Biden took office. Oil, IMO, needs to come down to around $65 - $70 /barrel AND get low-cost-of-production areas opened up, get Keystone going, etc.
Dear Lady, I am amused that you were "shocked." The lack of media attention to the growing crisis has been well curated and studiously ignored.
The number is within bounds correct. To attribute it to Trump alone is massively incorrect, albeit political. He is in company with Obama and Biden, and one need ask -- why?
As to adding to debt by administration, the Bush II administration went from 55 percent GDP to debt ration to 62 percent.
The Obama administration went from 68 percent to 101 percent.
The Trump administration (with the whole Covid hysteria and fraud) went from 105 % to 107 %.
The Biden administration (sadly still operating) has risen to 123 %.
In order that you have data which you can number crunch, I put together a list. (Sources should you need them) --
2000 -- $5,674 and 55% debt to gdp ratioSo, doing simple math, the succeeding administrations have been saddled with Congress doing the appropriations, and the Senate validating them. Trump was blinded, in my opinion, from the outset by the whole Russia-gate thing courtesy of Pelosi and Clinton, by being too trusting and bringing into his administration the likes of Pompeo and Barr and more, and then of course by the Fauci "revolution", and two impeachment processes alonside the whole Mueller adventure; He lost sight of spending, and it has simply go on through the Congress' spending spree. The accusation in the debates is not wrong. Trump was blindsided coming from many directions.
2001 -- $5,807 and 55% debt to gdp ratio
2002 -- $6,228 and 57% debt to gdp ratio
2003 -- $6,783 and 59% debt to gdp ratio
2004 -- $7,379 and 60% debt to gdp ratio
2005 -- $7,933 and 61% debt to gdp ratio
2006 -- $8,507 and 61% debt to gdp ratio
2007 -- $9,008 and 62% debt to gdp ratio
2008 -- $10,025 and 68% debt to gdp ratio
2009 -- $11,910 and 82% debt to gdp ratio
2010 -- $13,562 and 90% debt to gdp ratio
2011 -- $14,790 and 95% debt to gdp ratio
2012 -- $16,066 and 99% debt to gdp ratio
2013 -- $16,738 and 99% debt to gdp ratio
2014 -- $17,824 and 101% debt to gdp ratio
2015 -- $17,824 and 101% debt to gdp ratio
2016 -- $19,573 and 105% debt to gdp ratio
2017 -- $20,245 and 104% debt to gdp ratio
2018 -- $21,516 and 105% debt to gdp ratio
2019 -- $22,719 and 107% debt to gdp ratio
2020 -- $27,748 and 129% debt to gdp ratio
2021 -- $29,617 and 124% debt to gdp ratio
2022 -- $30,824 and 123% debt to gdp ratioAs 2023 is incomplete, the debt now rises quickly to $33 trillion, and only when we end this year will the final figure be known.
It is proof positive that the bureaucratic state has pursued its own interests -- money and power -- to the detriment of our children, such that each of our kids and their kids, if not on the dole, owes today about $253,000 as their "share" of this idiotic and rapidly growing debt.
Since I collected the data by year for you, now you can sketch onto that the periods when Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the House and Charles Schumer in charge of the Senate. It is a revealing exercise, should you add to the picture for yourself. I encourage it. Best wishes.
Technically, yes. The two parts to the lingo seem one way and then another, while meaning the same thing. "Debt as a percentage of GDP" would be very nice. Longer phrase, so the truncation seems to be sometimes how things roll. Indeed, in the moment our "debt as a percentage of GDP" is a noxious 123 percent.
I finally asked Google: “has prigozhin’s cemetary for dead wagner soldiers been destroyed?” The link below is the Google list of articles and videos about this question. Pick and choose as you wish from amoung these varied sources.
The Seventh Circle of Hell awaits you.
The temperatures in Texas have been unusually high for prolonged periods and that has been reported as a cause for high gas prices. I have been watching the weather channel quite a lot to follow temperatures as I am 85 and have a lot of physical work I need to do this summer, some outside and some inside unairconditioned buildings. I am renovating several houses either doing work myself or closely supervising work of others and have to time work to temperatures I can tolerate and for the amount of time I can function. I think there have been periods of 10 days or longer for over 100 in Texas, and other multiday periods over 105.
You are right, part of the problem of Covid gas prices is how quickly this affected the supply storage situation. It takes a while to shut down pumping, and storage was quickly filled up, both at the huge storage depot in Oklahoma, and in tankers at sea, so for a day or two, unbelievably, people were being paid to take away excess oil. The oil price you state may be too low for high production in the US. The last break even figure I saw, 2 years ago for N. Dakota, was around $80 a barrel. I think this has encouraged some start-up there again, but the heat and refining is a separate issue, and if the Global Warmers are correct it will only get worse. In the long run, refining may need to be built in cooler states, but that is a long drawn out expensive project.
Last I saw of the Keystone Pipeline Issue, it was dead as a doornail. It was shut down, and accumulated supplies for building it were gone, sold, whatever, but no longer in place. I don’t know about the per barrel price, but tar sands are a dense, dirty, toxic substance that has other problems which make it a more expensive substance to turn into fuel. Must Google it to see recent info. With Canadian wildfires, I am reminded that the town nearby the tar sands with some 80,000 people nearly burned down almost completely a few years back.
I was given a little Standard Oil stock at birth, which has morphed to BP stock, and last I looked was in the toilet along with my GE stock.
I don’t know about debt to gdp or GDP ratios. I was looking at raw trillions. I know that the $trillions in dept for Obama’s 8 years was about the same as Trump’s for 4 years, but even factoring in the inflation, Trump’s figure was still higher than Obama’s. They each had major economic disasters to try to modify, stimulas packages to the masses for example. Unfortunately, the Trump years were further poisoned by Covid, and the unnecessary greed feast and costly death rate for which we have Fauci, Pfizer, Gilead Sciences, etc. to thank.
I have followed the Covid issue both politically and scientifically and could say a lot but don’t want to highjack this thread. Private Mail me if you have any questions or thoughts to share on Covid issues.
There's a wealthy Russian-Ukrainian couple who (unfortunately) bought property in my town in Sicily years ago. She'd sport black eyes and bruises constantly because he was pissed that she was constantly cheating on her. A real shitshow. Everyone here hates them and their boorish, low class behavior. Research my comments for the whole, sordid story, a common Eastern European "love" story based on my experiences with those people.
She was cheating on “her”?
Him. He’s a real estate “magnate” based in Moscow. Loudmouthed blowhard always bragging about how much money he makes. Ugh
Clear.
--- "...the unnecessary greed feast and costly death rate for which we have Fauci, Pfizer, Gilead Sciences, etc. to thank."
An "unnecessary greed fest" is a fine way to describe the Covid scam, which continues with Biden, in spite of the proven mortality rate have been far less than one tenth of one percent over three years.
--- "Private Mail me if you have any questions or thoughts to share on Covid issues."
I am uninterested is private exchanges, which do not have other eyes watching on this anonymous forum. Once before a certain older female from Florida pulled the "private email" game which was a complete waste of time.
The thread is titled "Ukraine Has DESTROYED Itself as NATO Admits Defeat," so the ensuing many comments have ranged widely. I don't care to use the expression "hijack" regarding Freepers' free expression of thoughts even minimally related to a thread.
Well related to the thread topic, the Ukraine/Russia war, is how our national debt races forward in part by hefty spending on a proxy war, with its many surprises.
“Quite a few of Wagner are IN Africa, right?”
Yup.
“German city. Anyone who supports war, not Peace, is on the wrong side.”
Then you are most assuredly on the wrong side, because you are probably the biggest supporter on Fr of Russia’s war against Ukraine.
Thanks for the links. As Wagner is legend in Russia, there is no doubt there will be/ should be some backlash.
Then you are most assuredly on the wrong side, because you are probably the biggest supporter on Fr of Russia’s war against Ukraine.
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The wrong side is anyone who fuels war, not Peace.Yes, Peace, even if it means Ukie surrender, negotiations, etc. It is clear the collective West is outmatched by the Russian Federation, they have no path to “ victory “, as we are witnessing.
The sooner the West realizes Vlad is never giving up, nor his people, the sooner it ends. Unfortunate for the collective West- they need to stop fueling War, take their licks, and start fueling Peace. There comes a time when “ Defiance” becomes Stupidity. The Ukrainian people will thank them, their country has been decimated by the corrupted Zelensky regime.
“The wrong side is anyone who fuels war, not Peace.”
Yeah; like you.
“It is clear the collective West is outmatched by the Russian Federation...”
Russia is struggling against a smaller and far weaker Ukraine; yet you think the collective West (which includes at least seven — and probably eight if one includes Poland — of the top ten militaries in the world, including the top one) is no match for Russia? You are so blatantly pro-Russia you exude vodka and cabbage and pelmeni from your pores. Because of your clear bias you simply cannot be taken seriously on anything associated with Russia. I bet you drive a Lada Oka.
You are of the mindset that bullying and aggression must not be opposed — but ONLY if that bully and aggressor is Russia.
“The Ukrainian people will thank them, their country has been decimated by the corrupted Zelensky regime.”
It is Russia that is blowing up and destroying Ukraine and killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians. Blaming the victim may make sense to you and Russia; but to the rest of us it is insulting and offensive.
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