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To: fwdude

These shots and boosters haven’t been through any rigorous testing. And no open debate is allowed regarding their safety or effectiveness. So I believe I’ll wait awhile.

A 5 to 10 year wait would seem reasonable. That’s how long it normally takes to test a new vaccine.

And as a side note, it’s a damn shame what the government is doing here. No one knows anything. We are all making critical decisions in a complete fog. And to make matters worse, people on both sides of the vaccine debate are lying for their own benefit.

So I really wouldn’t criticize someone who took the jab. I wouldn’t. But to each his own.


23 posted on 08/25/2023 7:41:40 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right
These shots and boosters haven’t been through any rigorous testing. And no open debate is allowed regarding their safety or effectiveness. So I believe I’ll wait awhile.

I said from the start that I'll wait 10 years. That should leave a long enough trail of death and destruction for me to decide.

24 posted on 08/25/2023 7:42:44 AM PDT by fwdude (.)
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To: Leaning Right

The mRNA vaccine technology has been in development since the 1990s. Moderna has been working on an mRNA vaccine for influenza for over ten years. In addition, mRNA vaccines had been developed for SARS but not tested since SARS was eradicated before a vaccine became necessary. This is not new technology.

As for the clinical trial testing of the various Covid vaccines, they are as thoroughly tested as any other vaccine that gets regulatory approval. The pharmaceutical companies had to demonstrate to the FDA that the vaccines are safe and effective by submitting reams of data, just as they would for any other drug they are trying to bring to market. The reason the Covid vaccine testing was done in such a short time is that the Trump administration removed some of the red tape that slows down testing. Thus, researchers were able to run clinical trials concurrently when previously, they would have had to run them sequentially.

The FDA website contains letters of approval for every vaccine. These letters are quite detailed.

FDA page for Pfizer vaccines:
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/coronavirus-covid-19-cber-regulated-biologics/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccines

Fact sheet, 79 pages, containing trial results:
https://www.fda.gov/media/167211/download?attachment

Letter of approval, 30 pages, containing dose information:
https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download?attachment

When charlatans create antivax misinformation, they count on the fact that the people they are targeting almost certainly will not fact-check (or even know how to fact-check). Plus, they tie the misinformation to politics in order to make their targets think that vaccination is all about governmental control rather than about public health. One of the goals of the antivax movement ever since it emerged following the smallpox vaccine rollout in 1796 is for people to die of infectious disease. They also profit from selling snake oil.


80 posted on 08/25/2023 9:24:42 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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