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To: ExTxMarine
If one parent gives you an answer, do NOT ask the other parent for an answer...you have your answer, now you are asking for a whoopin’ (we didn’t want our girls playing us against one another)

Your entire post about how you raised your kids was so excellent. I particularly like the above rule. I think it has probably saved many marriages. Kids may think it's not "fair," but they would think two households, joint custody and continual custody fights are a whole lot worse.

There's a calmly-administered "whoopin'" for the sake of discipline, which I think is acceptable in small doses for major infractions like running into a busy street without looking or gross disrespect to elders; and then there's striking out in rage over relatively minor offenses, running after a kid screaming and threatening, paddle in hand, terrorizing them. This I do not condone, having experienced it.

My mother was an Irish-tempered terror, but my dear dad had been orphaned, and he stayed there for us, regardless. He acquiesed her child rearing decisions, including frequent flights off the handle, until we were out of the house. When we were adults he let his feelings be known, and quietly defended us, especially the grandchildren, from the constant shaming and criticisms. Gotta give my mother credit for having been a better grandmother, and not hitting the grands like my brothers and I were hit. I think she knew I would have decked her if she struck my kid in anger, and I'm a woman.

When it was my turn to discipline children, I explainied the principles involved in very simple language, calmly warned about consequences, and always followed through. When they were old enough ( but not yet having a phone or car to be taken away) and did something pretty serious, they had to write a one-pager about how that behavior violated any the Ten Commandments, and we would talk about it. Only had to do that a few times. I always let them know that parents have to answer to a higher power, too; not just kids.

27 posted on 09/04/2023 9:41:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

First, THANK YOU! My wife and I worked hard through over nine years in the Marine Corps, seven years traveling for IT work, and another seven years of traveling in construction safety...and our girls appreciated our efforts as well.

Our only other rule was pretty straightforward. I absolutely loathe liars. So, I told my girls if you mess up, fess up, but do NOT lie about it.

Sooner or later I will get the truth and there will be corporal punishment for any lies told - PERIOD. If you are honest with me, there may be punishment (i.e., extra chores, grounding, no phone/TV privileges, etc.), but no physical punishment.

And like your mother, my mother was a “tree switch” type person and my dad was a 7-loop-clearing, leather belt-wielding person! Both had the rule, I will give you all licks, to ensure the right one got whooped...that always bothered me. So I swore I would only use my hand to give spankings, that way I couldn’t go overboard (my own hand couldn’t take it after a while - LOL)! And, if we were not sure who was the culprit, we didn’t punish anyone. I would rather no one get punished than the WRONG person get punished.

Believe it or not, My wife and I discussed these things extensively when we were in high school (we are high school sweethearts)...how we would raise kids if we ever had them. We both had traumatic experiences with our own parents. I was determined to NOT be THAT person. Heck, I even apologized to my kids when I found out I was wrong...I know neither of my parents ever apologized...my dad used to say, “That was for the next thing you do, that I don’t catch you doing”!

What’s funny is that we and our kids are extremely close and are actually “friends” now they are grown. And they do not have an issue with us disciplining or admonishing any of our ten grandkids.


28 posted on 09/05/2023 9:03:30 AM PDT by ExTxMarine
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