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The Green Energy Future Is Arriving Faster Than You Think -- Or Not
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 19 Aug, 2023 | Francis Menton

Posted on 08/20/2023 4:47:09 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: EEGator
A-ha! HERE'S the better version - boy, that took me a few minutes to find where I had posted it


21 posted on 08/20/2023 6:29:09 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: MtnClimber; metmom; 4everontheRight; 4Liberty; 5thGenTexan; 45semi; 101stAirborneVet; 300winmag; ...
Green Energy and Renewables are not yet reliable,.. for a reason,
Aerial power sources are subject to terrorism, wind, rain, thunderstorms, flood, and wind damage.
Storage systems are still being developed and are novel.
Subterranean power sources, such as natural gas lines are subject only to earthquakes, floods and terrorism,
and they don't require development of storage systems as they have already been established, decades ago.
Aerial electrical as singular supply power sources are just too novel and unreliable

When you are "on the grid", you involuntarily participate in a government controlled and sanctioned, regional monopoly.
Even nuclear powered generation requires round-the-support lock security, as well as half-life spent fuel disposal.
Renewables support the CHiCom "Military/Industrial complex with their increased monopoly over rare earth elements necessary for electrical production and energy storage.

When you rely on mis-named "fossil fuels", you get to choose which supply company that you wish to support.
We are quick to forget last years Texas experience when they had the "Texas Frooze to Death", 8 - 10 day power outage during unseasonable, extreme cold temps,
or the Cheektowaga/Buffalo area snow blizzard where people froze to death while people who had natural gas heating survived.
Human survival requires both energy supply systems to exist, simultaneously.

22 posted on 08/20/2023 6:30:45 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Ikeon

Have they found the source of the fire in Maui? I think it was an accident but the winds helped carry it along. The accident was either a fire not put out or a cigarette perhaps.


23 posted on 08/20/2023 6:39:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: butlerweave

The only climate business government should be involved in is ensuring clean air and water. Otherwise stay out of it.


24 posted on 08/20/2023 6:41:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: MtnClimber

If you look at yhe numbers 40% of the renewables or 3% of the total are burned to generate power. If the goal is CO2 reduction, they should not be in the “Net Zero” calculation.

It is very doubtful that these renewables produce less CO2 per unit of energy than natural gas, of which we have an abundance. Renewable fuels are pointless as ways to reduce CO2.

So the real number for combustible fuels used to generate power is 82%, and if cost was the only method of selection, these green fuels would be sharply reduced.

The economics for power generation favor natural gas, which is why the environmentalists resist every gas pipeline proposal.


25 posted on 08/20/2023 6:44:08 AM PDT by JeanLM
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To: MtnClimber

NOT!,,,,,Let the Capitalistic System determine supply and demand of Green Energy.


26 posted on 08/20/2023 6:49:56 AM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: JeanLM

To win he climate debate there must be a Boogieman

CO2 is the designated Boogieman. Virtually everybody has heard the term and almost no one knows what it is or for that matter does. If there was the diet purity demanded, insisted upon, by Vegans, there should be no Coke or Pepsi or Mountain Dew or Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi allowed to be sold. There should be no beer. There should be no wine or vodka or whiskey.

The way to end the climate change debate is to end the climate changers


27 posted on 08/20/2023 6:57:36 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: MtnClimber
It’s the usual touching faith that central planning really is going to work this time, because it will be done more intelligently. /\ And if all else fails to destroy so they can build back better there is always... 2 1 at odark 30 am.
28 posted on 08/20/2023 8:32:10 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: MtnClimber

Green Energy = As Real As Utopia


29 posted on 08/20/2023 9:38:18 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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This single paragraph is an incomprehensible level of derangement. The means for anything it desres or suggests does not exist and the author does not even suspect thst.

If the government is going to ban the sale of gas boilers in 2035, as it says, it will need to make sure that cheaper alternatives are available. Likewise with a planned ban on new gas and diesel cars: It’s a fine goal, but it won’t go anywhere unless consumers have compelling incentives, charging infrastructure can meet demand and the government has otherwise laid the needed groundwork. . . . Above all, what’s needed is leadership. Decarbonization can drive economic growth, create jobs and bring substantial benefits to the environment and public health. But it must be done purposefully and strategically.

30 posted on 08/20/2023 12:37:26 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: cpdiii

Chemical engineers weep at the thought of merely burning natural gas just to boil water.


31 posted on 08/20/2023 12:39:57 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Taxman

ping


32 posted on 08/20/2023 5:15:51 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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To: MtnClimber

What we REALLY need are Leaders who use The Scientific Method, Reason, Logic and Common Sense to make decisions!

The BOZOs making decisions nowadays cannot define, much less use The Scientific Method, Reason, Logic and Common Sense to make decisions!

These LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist/Commnunist/Democrat BOZOs present us with Garbage In, Garbage Out decisions, rules, laws, declarations, proclamations, ets. etc. on a daily basis!

I MISS PRESIDENT TRUM!


33 posted on 08/20/2023 7:19:35 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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