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To: CatOwner
UMCRevMom@aol.com asserted to you:
The ‘PUTIN-Biden-Clinton-Obama’ cartel did used Ukraine as a FRONT to stage their money-laundering by using Russian agents embedded BY PUTIN in the Ukraine government: Ukrainian deep-state! President Zelensky is still trying to remove Ukraine CORRUPT “deep state created by Putin!”
Please note that no citations to support the assertion underpin the remark. It is an admission that Ukraine was deeply involved in money-laundering. In fact, it is also an assertion that this corruption continues, that one plucky little Z is fighting against Putin and Russia, against Biden, Clinton, Obama and therefore this American government, and against all the "embedded Russian agents" and the Ukrainian "deep state." This mythology making is the stuff of Hollywood. Super-hero time.

Every villain aligned against little Z, and of course his Swiss-vlogging ally, Deny Davydov who gives us our daily thread.

I am chuckling especially as this thread contains a comment:

"” Ukraine, which is knee-deep is US political corruption and money laundering.” "There is no evidence of that [corruption] at all. Its often repeated around here, but its based on nothing."
But...
"...‘PUTIN-Biden-Clinton-Obama’ cartel did used Ukraine as a FRONT to stage their money-laundering by using Russian agents embedded BY PUTIN in the Ukraine government: Ukrainian deep-state!"
Lovely. NO evidence AND evidence, appearing this day on this thread. Ostensibly by allies.

Yup.

I validate your view.

"No fan of Putin, because he's an ass, nor do I care for Ukraine, which is knee-deep is US political corruption and money laundering. A mere fraction of the money sent to Ukraine could have greatly bolstered the US border."
Yes indeed. Kudos to you.
66 posted on 08/20/2023 2:22:37 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I am perfectly happy to disagree with statements coming from any direction.

I do not see any evidence of US political funds going to US politicians from “Ukraine”, not now nor in years past. Save for the one case, that of Biden, which involved a private company soliciting corrupt US support against the Ukrainian government.

And a partially correct statement from your other cite is all about the nature of Burisima. This is, or at least was, at the time, a business well connected with pro-Russian interests. Which was why Poroshenkos government was after them, post-Maidan.

So, as one of my heroes (Jaime Escalante, I met him once, in Sacramento) said, “stand and deliver”. Where is the grand Ukrainian funding mechanism? Testimony, receipts, emails please.


70 posted on 08/20/2023 4:54:38 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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