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To: amnestynone
“Right now we have the chance to use Ukraine to end it and we need to take that opportunity.”

What an absolutely despicable thing to say out loud. To use one nation (Ukraine) as as an object bludgeoned another nation (Russia). Sick and disgusting. To view this bloodshed as an “opportunity”, a “chance” to “use” the lives of others. Sad

53 posted on 08/18/2023 6:58:45 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall

Russia is bludgeoning Ukraine and not the other way around. Russia is the author of this bloodshed and deserves to pay a price for it. It sh5 of the people ii this country would not believe that Russia which started this war is is a victim when it is plainly the aggressor. Every other major country lives in peace except Russia.


56 posted on 08/18/2023 7:03:47 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: CapandBall; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Please note that amnestynone's statement -- "Right now we have the chance to use Ukraine to end it and we need to take that opportunity" -- is a direct parallel to the public stances and statements of Biden, Blinken, Austin, Sullivan, Nuland, Graham and others that Ukraine is being used.

The worldwide game of geopolitics is clarifying, and the neo-con/neo-lib voices are contributing to sullying this wonderful nation's reputation with "do as we say, or we will destroy" by everything from war materiel and the expenditure of national wealth (adding to debt, of course), to color revolutions (an obvious and openly stated stratagem, as Obama spoke of them), and the seeming punishment of economic sanctions, the latter seeming to be harming a number of nations with those pesky "unintended" consequences.

It seems wise to examine the use of words, for to "use" another nation for war against a third, while 1) not declaring war, 2) not investing one's own men into war while others are, and 3) speaking quite openly about it as if to say "see, how clever we are" is a Democrats' and RINOs' game.

Revisiting the language which was presented to you as argument, ""Right now we have the chance to use Ukraine to end it and we need to take that opportunity."

To use Ukraine. This is the substance of the discussion, as has been made by Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Austin, Sullivan, Nuland, Graham, and ....

86 posted on 08/19/2023 5:39:34 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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