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Based on Russia’s stated goals at the outset of the conflict Russia has indeed lost.

The goals were to remove Ukraine’s leadership and keep NATO from Russia’s borders.
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These were not the stated goals. The stated goals are what is actually in speeches, not what some reporter imagines was meant in the latest bit of mindreading.

The purpose has been stated to de-nazify and de-militarize Ukraine. This would seem clearly to be in progress.


9 posted on 08/08/2023 10:51:45 PM PDT by Owen
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Who will de-nazify Russia? They have their own Nazi problem


13 posted on 08/08/2023 11:25:25 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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