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To: fieldmarshaldj; DallasBiff

I often think Tucker and Diane may be secretly plotting to take over Jabot and dump both Ashley and Jack in a huge, dramatic betrayal! But now that Kyle has left the company and is boinking Tucker’s ex-conspirator, maybe not.

I didn’t include Lily in my list of remaining POCs because her Pakistani genes seem most prominent in her looks, so I always think of her as Middle Eastern; but Wikipedia says her mother was part native American, part white and part black. Just sayin’.

The SORAS thing is indeed weird, but I have to admit, I rarely get overly interested in the storylines because there are so very many whoppers about how things actually work and assorted improbabilities, it would be embarrassing to get too invested—can’t even begin with the nonsense they want us to believe. In the 80s, before cable, I was confined to bedrest for a few months, and that’s when I got hooked on ATWT and Y&R—my tv only got 4 channels. After ATWT died, I watched B&B more often; but the writing is so bad you can skip it for weeks and hardly miss anything.

I would stop watching for years at a stretch, but now that I’m retired reading current events on FR every day, soaps remain interesting as an indicator of what the writers of these shows (that all started out aiming at traditional conservative housewives) believe their current diverse audience is interested in or will put up with, such as the mainstreaming of unmarried sex, female assertiveness, gay storylines, and so forth. You mentioned the absence of Rick Forrester for what—a decade now? I suspect that most of the soap audience was not yet ready for the full blown transgender storyline and probably flamed the comment boards. But I could be wrong.

Soaps do a public service when they tackle issues like alcoholism or the like. Yesterday Finn gave a brief PSA about swimming safety tied to the storyline. One small development I’ve noticed is that traditional soap women often told lies and manipulated in relationships. These days, there is more direct, egalitarian communication, especially between couples. The lying and manipulation is now more between enemies or frenemies, both business and social, or coming from soaps’ outcasts, from well-established liars like Victor or Phyllis, or from criminal villains.

Well, these convos have successfully filled my procrastination quotient for several days while the heat wave rolled through! Today it’s so nice out, my undone yard work is calling. Thanks for your interesting points of viewership, FRiends!


41 posted on 08/01/2023 11:27:16 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde; fieldmarshaldj
Well Sheila did redeem herself saving Kelly from drowning

Dweebes, Liam and Finn are beside themselves.

42 posted on 08/01/2023 1:43:52 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: Albion Wilde; DallasBiff

Naah, Diane wouldn’t take the risk of conspiring with Tucker, since that would permanently destroy her relationship with her son.

Funny, the writers/producers almost treat Lily like she’s a White character. I forgot to mention regarding the clean-sweep out of the Hispanic characters (although Audra is obviously a Latina, her name and character is also treated like she is just another White), the actress that played the cheated-on ex of Kyle’s, Sasha Calle, got hired to play some superhero in the movies (although another example of a non-White being cast as a White character).

Yeah, besides the improbabilities and the like (Sheila’s “trial” in the judge’s chambers), the SORAS thing just is the added cherry on top for confusion and messed-up timelines and forced ret-cons.

Rick Forrester has been MIA since May 2018 (the presumption he is in Paris or Milan), and the last mention of him that his marriage to the tranny ended (and she vanished). They had a child with Maya’s sister, and she also has not been mentioned. You’d think they could’ve recast, but they haven’t. It makes no logical sense that his character wouldn’t have returned even once in all that time. The other ignored character, Ridge Jr (RJ), recently returned, aged and recast with someone in his early 20s. His presence there only serves to reinforce the very incestuous relationships of the Logan/Forrester kids (his half-brother Thomas banging his half-sister Hope). Sure, it’s not technically biologically incestuous, but given that they were all raised together, you’d have thought that might’ve been enough for the kids not wanting to get it on with their step-sibs (although don’t get me wrong, had I been Greg Brady, I’d have hit Marcia like the fist of an angry God. Did I say that aloud ?).


44 posted on 08/02/2023 8:06:07 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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