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To: Bob434
Once people knew the dangers, whatever happened to,them health wise was their own responsibility.

It should be but it isn't.

I have yet to see a smoker take on the financial responsiblity for their health care needs from years of smoking. They expect either their insurance or the government to take up that cost, that increases the cost for all of us and uses medical resources that infringe on the accessiblity of those who don't partake.

That means that non-smokers are paying for the same kind of poor lifestyle choices that affect one's health, like people who overeat and end up with diabetes and heart attacks.

117 posted on 07/25/2023 8:35:30 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom
That means that non-smokers are paying for the same kind of poor lifestyle choices that affect one's health, like people who overeat and end up with diabetes and heart attacks.

Which is why socialized medicine is such bad juju, now what you do becomes everybody's business if they are on the hook for your decisions.

118 posted on 07/25/2023 8:36:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: metmom

[[I have yet to see a smoker take on the financial responsiblity for their health care needs from years of smoking.]]

I have yet to see an overeater do so- or a reckless thrill seeker- or an aids diseased or SD riddled person or drug addict, or fast driver, or text and drivers or or or...


123 posted on 07/25/2023 8:44:27 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: metmom

and just one small point- the argument that smokers raise healthcare prices is disputed

there is the argument that people who smoke die quicker, and cost less than non smoking people who wind up in hospitals for myriad other ailments brought on by ‘unhealthy lifestyles’

“Preventing obesity and smoking can save lives, but it doesn’t save money, researchers reported Monday.

It costs more to care for healthy people who live years longer, according to a Dutch study that counters the common perception that preventing obesity would save governments millions of dollars.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/smokers-the-obese-cheaper-to-treat-than-healthy-long-living-people-study-1.764092


134 posted on 07/25/2023 9:15:18 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: metmom

so “Down with healthy people!” lol


135 posted on 07/25/2023 9:17:03 AM PDT by Bob434
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