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To: MarMema
You sidestepped my point. The issue is a dramatic increase since “vaccination” in all-cause mortality, especially in the young and otherwise healthy (who are also experiencing a sudden explosion of blood clot-related problems). The young are suddenly dying in numbers even greater than during the worst of the pandemic, and the primary variable introduced since then is the “vax.” From a story on another thread:

“Of particular concern is the 15 to 44 age group, where cumulative deaths are tracking above all recent years, including 2020.”

Be sure as well to note that word “all.” Young people are suddenly dying at the highest rate in recent history, correlating directly with having been forced to accept a highly experimental drug that tinkered with their cellular machinery. Also note that clinical trial documentation, that had to be pried from Pfizer’s and the government’s hands via legal action, shows clearly that the shots were causing blood clots in many instances. Gee, what a coincidence.

86 posted on 07/25/2023 6:33:12 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman; Jim Noble

I need to see science demonstrating the actual mechanism of the vax causing blood clotting.
And I am not saying there is not one.

I attended many coagulation seminars in my career, memorized those flipping cascades.
Assisted physicians in choosing coagulation testing.

I am not saying its not the vaxes. I just need to see an answer to why.

Sometimes in medicine there are unexplainable trends.
Sepsis is a current trend that, entering the lab in 1980,
was extremely rare for decades. Today it is common.

How the mrna vaccine could cause clotting months after being administered is still on my unknown list.
I want actual physiology, because that was my career for 40+ years.

I know that at covid autopsies they found megakaryocytes in brain tissue. There seems to be some relationship to covid...but maybe to the virus itself.


90 posted on 07/25/2023 6:54:35 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: noiseman

There were some rare but notable Incidents of thrombocytopenia. If the research heads anywhere on this it needs to be platelets, imo.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2106315

The Journal has now highlighted three independent descriptions of 39 persons with a newly described syndrome characterized by thrombosis and thrombocytopenia that developed 5 to 24 days after initial vaccination with ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AstraZeneca), a recombinant chimpanzee adenoviral vector encoding the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2.3-5 These persons were healthy or in medically stable condition, and very few were known to have had previous thrombosis or a preexisting prothrombotic condition. Most of the patients included in these reports were women younger than 50 years of age, some of whom were receiving estrogen-replacement therapy or oral contraceptives. A remarkably high percentage of the patients had thromboses at unusual sites — specifically, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis or thrombosis in the portal, splanchnic, or hepatic veins. Other patients presented with deep venous thrombi, pulmonary emboli, or acute arterial thromboses. The median platelet counts at diagnosis were approximately 20,000 to 30,000 per cubic millimeter (range, approximately 10,000 to 110,000), but the rate of decline in platelet counts that preceded thrombosis is unknown. High levels of d-dimers and low levels of fibrinogen were common and suggest systemic activation of coagulation. Approximately 40% of the patients died, some from ischemic brain injury, superimposed hemorrhage, or both conditions, often after anticoagulation.


92 posted on 07/25/2023 7:00:03 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: noiseman

Then there is this.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8400504/

When you work in science you have to learn to overcome personal bias.

Best example I can give you for this is a PT arriving in the ED complaining of low blood sugar, nurses bringing me blood and telling me he is faking.

Then his glucose turns out to be 39.

So I think if you delve into covid vaccines causing clots, the first question is how long after the vaccine?
Most literature seems focused on no longer than a month.

We have posts here of young adults dying that clearly seem to show a frightening trend.
Most of the time however, we don’t know if they were vaxxed and how long ago.

There is something, I think, because insurance companies, who would have access to data, are saying so.

Clearly the covid vaccines were not as safe and effective as they claimed. But when did the feds ever tell us the truth?

I hope to see an outcome to all of this in my lifetime.


93 posted on 07/25/2023 7:12:39 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: noiseman

This is the thing that makes me wonder the most however.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330102226.htm

“A new analysis shows that, compared to similarly high-income European countries, the US continues to have substantially higher death rates at all but the oldest ages, resulting in more “excess deaths,” and this gap widened during the Covid-19 pandemic. Patrick Heuveline, of the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), presents these findings in the open-access journal PLOS ONE on March 29, 2023.”

Because you would think these EU vassal would have similar or even higher rates of covid vaccination.
And it looks like it was in process prior to covid.

“Building on those earlier studies, Heuveline calculated excess death rates in the US relative to the same five countries — England & Wales, France, Germany, Italy, and Spain — for 2017 through 2021. The calculations account for different population sizes between the countries.”


96 posted on 07/25/2023 7:50:20 AM PDT by MarMema
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