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“And Fravor and Ryan Graves are eye witnesses to whatever is being discussed.” Well, they claim to be eyewitnesses. That’s not the same as being an eyewitness. It could be their claim is true, or it could not be true.

But isn't Fravor at least backed up by the video from the Nimtiz?

So what would convince you that the UFO's are in fact alien?

Watching them on TV land on the White House lawn and get out to talk with the President? But then that could be CGI.

Or watching a Black Cube fly over your house at 1000mph?

Would you then be an 'eyewitness', or would you just be 'claiming' to be an 'eyewitness'?

72 posted on 07/20/2023 10:53:40 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)

Fravor is backed up by another couple pilots (his wingman and the pilot from later same day that filmed the FLIR video), couple electronics officers, several sets of radar & the testimony of at least one radar operator. Something is out there. Has been for a long time, imo.

88 posted on 07/20/2023 12:52:51 PM PDT by Churchjack (ask me about the sanctity of pipe organs next)

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