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Why the British Royal Crown Failed to Save the Romanovs
History.com ^ | 7/17/22 | Barbara Maranzani

Posted on 07/16/2023 6:56:07 PM PDT by DallasBiff

That the end of the Russian Empire brought about by Russian Revolution also resulted in the former Emperor’s execution now feels like an inevitability. However, though his monarchy was overthrown, Nicholas and his family were related to many other royal families, thanks to Queen Victoria’s habit of arranging marriages for her offspring across Europe.

In the 15 months from his abdication to his death, royal relations still in power debated if and how they should grant the family asylum, with many of the Romanov descendants believing King George V of England, the czar’s cousin and grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II, could have saved them.

Would this have been a possibility, or were they doomed from the start? Here’s how the events unfolded leading up to their brutal deaths

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KEYWORDS: romanov; romanovs; russia; worldwari
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Tonight is the 105th anniversary, of their executions.

Still amazes me how Europe was plunged into a devastating war, and with first cousin kings being on opposite sides.

1 posted on 07/16/2023 6:56:07 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

One word...mobilization.


2 posted on 07/16/2023 6:59:11 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DallasBiff

My fault Russia was allied with Britain, but the royal families were so inter-related back then.


3 posted on 07/16/2023 7:02:55 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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King George V and Tsar Nicholas looked almost like identical twin brothers.

The brutal murder of Nicholas and his entire family including young children was just part of many evil acts to start the legacy of the communist Soviet Union and its leaders over time.


4 posted on 07/16/2023 7:03:52 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: DallasBiff

I don’t believe you were wrong “first cousins” - I believe Kaiser Wilheim was in Germany.

The end of World War I bringing about the fall of the Royal houses of Russia and Germany both would lead to extraordinary carnage in the years to come. The concept of “royalty” is one thing to discuss academically, but it is far less likely had in that particular point in time those royal houses remained intact that we would have ended up with the tens of millions of deaths resulting from Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.


5 posted on 07/16/2023 7:07:01 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: DallasBiff

Thanks for posting.


6 posted on 07/16/2023 7:08:56 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: DallasBiff

The fall of Russia was orchestrated faster than anybody could react to it. Very well orchestrated.


7 posted on 07/16/2023 7:09:06 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: DallasBiff

The Guns of August


8 posted on 07/16/2023 7:14:00 PM PDT by Bratch
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The fall of Russia was orchestrated faster than anybody could react to it. Very well orchestrated.

agree
there has always been a deep state

9 posted on 07/16/2023 7:16:17 PM PDT by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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To: DallasBiff

bump


10 posted on 07/16/2023 7:16:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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To: Republican Wildcat
King George V and Tsar Nicholas looked almost like identical twin brothers.

I find that uncanny too. I know in my family as well, my father (Born in October of 1937) and his cousin, I called Uncle Bob (born in January of 1938), looked almost the same too. In my case, Identical twin fathers married sisters of the same family so I cab see why.

The brutal murder of Nicholas and his entire family including young children was just part of many evil acts to start the legacy of the communist Soviet Union and its leaders over time.

No one deserves what they went through, the commies proved to be terrible monsters.
11 posted on 07/16/2023 7:17:41 PM PDT by MrLucky1966 (GOVT.SYS CORRUPTED! RUN GUN.COM? (Y/Y) GUN.COM NOT FOUND, EXECUTE BASEBALL.BAT? (Y/Y))
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To: DallasBiff

Because the king didn’t want the socialist to decend on england


13 posted on 07/16/2023 7:25:10 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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14 posted on 07/16/2023 7:27:10 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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It was France that was allied with Russia. Britain was aligned with Belgium, and that’s what brought the Brits into the war.


15 posted on 07/16/2023 7:29:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DallasBiff

Something major is left out of this ‘history’ by this woman Rappaport— the political situation in Britain. The Prime Minister was Lloyd George (not Church of England, but a Labor favoring, who was Baptist. This is important in those days as to the State Religion/Monarchy House of Lords interconnections, and the working people were not happy about mobilization. Lloyd George played a crucial role is warning off King George- when George had the capabilities, and could have had the timing. Labor favored the Bolsheviks as they organized against British defense manufacturing and the War, and it was they put Lloyd George in Labor from Parliament into the position of Prime Minister). Appeasing the workers so they would not strike against Vickers, etc.

Labor was not helpful, even resentful of WWI and UK’s commitments to the French and Russians vs. The Tsar’s cousin (again the relationships) Kaiser Wilhelm, who was nuts and power mad at the same time (the war started with a Serbian nationalist killing the heir to Austro-Hungary and his wife. And the actions of the Russian foreign minister getting “taken” by Austro-Hungary’s foreign minister. Serbs aligned with Russia in all history).

HMS Marlborough came in to the Black Sea and Crimea and picked up the Dowager Empress and many of the Romanovs— the Bolshies killed every one they found, but there was a window to rescue the Tsar’s children if not Nicholas and Alexandra- these were real thugs, and the White Russians almost freed the family in Ekaterinberg.. Lenin ordered the murders- it’s in the Russian archives on paper, and what is very important is that German Foreign Minister convinced the Kaiser to support Lenin and 70 0f his conspirators to be allowed to leave Switzerland, travel to St. Petersburg in a German military protected train, loaded with German gold specie (coins) and carry out the revolution. Wilhelm was pushed being told they would WIN the war by removing the Tsar and causing them to leave the war. It did not happen that way. Germany lost, the blowback was Communists became a major threat to Weimar, and the powers went with Hitler to ‘control’ them.

Wilhelm was nuts and exiled to Holland (he wrote letters to Hitler thinking Hitler would restore the german monarchy).


16 posted on 07/16/2023 7:30:38 PM PDT by John S Mosby (.Sic Semper Tyrannis.)
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To: DallasBiff

Nicky’s cousin, Der Kaiser is the one who allowed Lenin to enter Russia.


17 posted on 07/16/2023 7:33:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: John S Mosby

They really destroyed western civilization. 30 centuries of it was lost in WWI.


18 posted on 07/16/2023 7:36:14 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: DallasBiff

All these royal idiots ended up destroying Europe for good with this stupid war.


19 posted on 07/16/2023 7:36:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DallasBiff

It was Kaiser Wilhelm II who sent Lenin and 32 other bolsheviks on a special sealed train to Russia for the intent of getting Russia out of the war. Everything ended up with the Romanovs murdered and Kaiser Wilhelm bundled off to Holland to die in exile in 1941.


20 posted on 07/16/2023 7:44:53 PM PDT by oldvirginian (When the Devil saw me on my knees with my head down he thought he'd won, until he heard me say Amen )
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