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Disney's problem isn't just that it is woke; it is also creatively dead
Hotair ^ | 07/14/2023 | David Strom

Posted on 07/14/2023 7:00:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Tom Cruise (whose religious beliefs seem utterly bizarre to me, but so what?) knows how to make a good movie.

Tom Cruise is crazy. But he's an artist. He's following a proven formula that's working. His audience loves him for it.

21 posted on 07/14/2023 7:45:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s not just that the politics are stupid and destructive; it’s that Disney has nothing else. They aren’t even creative enough to be decent propagandists.

^^^soooo this!^^^

22 posted on 07/14/2023 7:48:29 PM PDT by workerbee (==)
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To: spintreebob
Hiring a Latina to play Snowflake is race-swapping? How so? It is illogic like this that makes our side look ridiculous.

I don't believe anyone really cares about that. Certainly Snow White's race/nationality is irrelevent.

Its the archetypes that matter, which the Wokesters at Disney will destroy. Snow White must be a virgin. She must be an immature girl. She needs to go through malformed men and their bad habits (dwarfs who are grumpy, lazy, sneezy, etc...) before she can find a true prince. She must face the enmity and competition of other women (her stepmother). She must deal with the vanity of the mirror (self-image) and confront evil

Will Disney be able to make the story "woke," but keep the archetypes and themes that resonate with people? I highly doubt it.

23 posted on 07/14/2023 7:52:29 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: aynrandfreak

>Woke and the death of creativity go hand in hand.

Apart from the obvious — that the entire point of ‘woke’ is destruction, lies, and ugliness — doing that process takes time, effort, and money.

They *have* to comb through the original line for line and frame for frame looking for every good thing so they can then invert it. They then *have* to hire and consult a bunch of DEI specialists to tell them what mix of what abominations must be included to meet the Current Thing, or else they’ll be devoured by the insane brigade. (People don’t go into gender studies to serve coffee — they do it to become little Stazi bullies)

Then all the regular talent in graphics, sound, production, etc. etc. get sucked up into this vortex because they have to try and make up for actual quality with production ‘value.’

So even if someone could sneak an actual good new idea in, where would they find all the people to make it happen?

“Forget about your silly whim; it doesn’t fit The Plan!” — Priest of Syrinx, 2112.


24 posted on 07/14/2023 8:19:05 PM PDT by No.6
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It started when they morphed mickey into lemmiwinks


25 posted on 07/14/2023 8:19:37 PM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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Equity activists are outraged over the disappearance of ‘white guilt’ that justified DEI’s existence
after Disney, Netflix, Warner Bros, and others lose money, force out their high-paid loser DEI chiefs
The Blaze ^ | July 12, 2023 | Carlos Garcia
Posted on 7/13/2023, 7:57:28 AM by Twotone

EDITED-—Racial equity activists are outraged after several large companies dropped their diversity, equity, and inclusion consultants......after huge company losses.

The outrage was documented in a report from the Los Angeles Times that noted the exits of DEI experts at Disney, Netflix, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and Warner Bros’ Discovery.

“I wake up every day trying not to be a cynic, but this is frightening,” Vic Bulluck of the NAACP Hollywood bureau ignorantly stated.

“Hollywood seems to be sending a message that these programs that were designed to (gag) “give more access to African Americans” are no longer needed.”

The report noted that all of the DEI chiefs dismissed were black women.

Business strategist Kim Crayton claimed that she predicted that the corporate support of DEI programs would be short-lived.

“2020 was the year that we were definitely making strides — but there wasn’t any strategy, there wasn’t any plan,” she explained.

“It was a PR moment — corporate blackface,” she added. “I told people at the time: ‘White guilt isn’t going to last.’”

Disney, Netflix, and Warner Bros. Discovery told the Los Angeles Times that these criticisms were inaccurate and that they were still committed to the cause of equity and diversity.

Crayton facetiously went on to say claim that DEI consultants were too busy “having to deal with white people’s feelings” to make any lasting change about inequity.

“If you don’t have the autonomy, the resources or the authority to make changes, it won’t work,” she said speaking in a total vacume, without a scintilla of factual proof. “Many of these women spend the majority of their time “navigating white people’s feelings’ — and you cannot do the work if you have to do that.”

Former NBC Universal diversity chair Paula Madison put her own biased spin on it.

“In many instances, other than receiving humongous salaries, the person in those roles has no power,” Madison explained. “These DEI officers are just treading water — and sometimes they are drowning. These things were never designed to be successful.”

The exasperation of DEI proponents was mirrored by that of LGBTQ activists who complained that corporations had been backing off from their support of the far-left movement during the very lucrative Pride Month.


26 posted on 07/14/2023 8:46:57 PM PDT by Liz (Vox Populi, Vox Dei (voice of the people is the voice of God))
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To: SeekAndFind

But fits the new Oscar rules.


27 posted on 07/14/2023 8:47:35 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: SeekAndFind

Disney is creatively dead because it’s focus is on propaganda, not on creating artistic content. Propaganda is meant to indoctrinate, not to enlighten or entertain.


28 posted on 07/14/2023 9:00:48 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: SeekAndFind

The whole entertainment industry is intellectually bankrupt. It’s because this entire generation of writers knows nothing but video games and comic book characters, and they’re going to be replaced by AI. It will be barely noticed.


29 posted on 07/14/2023 9:15:36 PM PDT by Spok (“I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”)
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To: lurk

Remember in 1984 when Winston was thinking about his friend that was rewriting the language; Newspeak? As he was talking about about how language would be simplified and people wouldn’t have to think choosing the right word, Winston realized Big Brother would be coming for him because he was too creative. Government must throttle thinkers-they’re too dangerous. That’s where we’re headed.


30 posted on 07/14/2023 9:24:45 PM PDT by Spok (“I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nominating someone is easy...getting the one you want confirmed is the hard part.


31 posted on 07/14/2023 9:26:05 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: Will88
Stephen Barnes kind of visited that theme in his novel, Lion's Blood. It's an alternate colonial America in which Africans were the settlers and plantation owners and they had white slaves from a less advanced Europe. He does a quite good job of making the could=have-beens and what-ifs sound plausible. It's a way better take on the idea than whatever Hollywood would do with it.
32 posted on 07/14/2023 9:51:28 PM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It has reached the point where you have to assume that Disney wants to lose money. Every woke movie they have released has bombed at the box office. So, what do they do? “Hold my Bud Light and watch this!”

Dirt Brown and the Seven Woke Transvestites, coming soon to a theater near you!


33 posted on 07/14/2023 10:01:17 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy ( Dementia Joe is Not My President)
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To: Jonty30; aynrandfreak
The reason, at least in part, is because liberalism removes morality. Without clear morality, you can’t have clear heroes and villains. Without that simple basis of heroes and villains, you cannot create storylines that involves heroes and villains.

That’s the real reason for the dearth of new material in Hollywood, I think.

I think that's a pretty good summary.

34 posted on 07/15/2023 12:02:02 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: SeekAndFind

These are directly tied to one another. The wokeratti are untalented hacks hoping to hide their lack of imagination, creativity or talent behind wokeness.

Everybody has noticed by now that the Woke can’t create anything. They can’t come up with any new stories anybody is the least bit interested in. All they can do is take old stories other people created and try to subvert them by substituting whoever scores the highest in the Oppression Olympics for a Straight White Male in those old stories.

I’m sure its only a matter of time before they recast Superman as a Brown, Transexual, Vegetarian, Furry or recast Captain Cook as a Black, Female, Disabled, Communist setting sail from subsaharan Africa to explore the world. This kind of thing is all they are capable of. Its why nobody watches their movies anymore.


35 posted on 07/15/2023 1:34:05 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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