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To: Dilbert San Diego
But some people say if you never needed to be naturalized,that makes you a natural born citizen.

Vivek was never naturalized because he was a citizen by birth. He was not naturalized along with his parents because he was already a citizen.

He was naturalized at birth by a law passed by congress. If you look up the law, it even says "Naturalization".

The Supreme Court even refers to this type of naturalization in their Wong Kim Ark decision. They talk about "mass naturalization at birth" through a law passed by congress.

It's still naturalization.

71 posted on 07/14/2023 3:53:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Spot on!

Vivek Ramasawmy is a “naturalized” Citizen at/by Birth per a U.S. Naturalization Act passed by Congress under their constitutionally granted powers to “Naturalize” citizens. That is a man-made positive law. So is the 14th Amendment. And so is the WKA (1898) common law decision granting Wong Kim Ark citizenship. And to be clear, that WKA (1898) SCOTUS decision confirmed he was only a basic Citizen, not a “natural born Citizen”. Congress nor SCOTUS can create a “natural born Citizen”. The 1939 Perkins v Elg decision clearly states the set of facts in its decision that Miss Elg was a “natural born Citizen” since Miss Elg was born in the USA to parents who were both U.S. Citizens at the time of her birth. See section 4 at this webpage for a listing of key SCOTUS decisions and the actual holding and decision for each case: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

A “natural born Citizen” is created per the Laws of Nature and Natural Law, not man-made Positive Law. See this article for more about who is a “natural born Citizen”: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2014/12/17/who-is-a-natural-born-citizen-of-the-united-states-to-constitutional-standards/ ... and ... https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2023/05/05/the-natural-born-citizen-term-is-neither-confusing-ambiguous-sexist-racist-or-overly-restrictive-if-ones-mind-is-open-to-the-truth-and-not-pettifogging-on-the-term/


78 posted on 07/14/2023 4:11:21 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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