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To: himno hero
How would you answer this question... How did Christ’s embryo get here... Leading into the immaculate conception?

I already know that.

Jesus' human body was made of the same masculine DNA (anf I mean same) as was Adam, a substance that was sinless and eternal before it became damaged by the disobedience of the first Adam. It was by that human from whom all other humanity--including Mary of Nazareth (but excluding the morula in which the Personality of the Eternal Son was invested)--that was/is derived.

Mary was not sinless, but rather a surrogate host "mother" in which that morula, being the God Incarnate, was implanted into her womb.

Today, our physicians have learned to accomplish that mystery with fallen human flesh. Why not The Godhead who breathed the life from the spiritual dimension into the DNA body created to entertain the spirit of life and become the First Adam, why not the Second?

Why not Himself, His Essence uniting with unfallen (but still exactly the samed that never experienced corruption and death, being yet perfect and sinless) DNA to be implanted and grow into a full-featured temporal human infant, the Second Adam; His Blood separated from that of the fallen host mother by the placenta, but obtaining nutrients through it? Conception does not occur until the morula attaches to the wall of the uterus, forming the placenta. Thus "immaculate conception" (of Mary's own mother?!!) is absolutely unnecessary to provide the nutrient-rich temperature-regulated, isolating protective environment for the God-Invested embryo to develop, and be born from the surrogate mother's birth channel.

This "immaculate conception" is merely a figment of mistaken theologians who knew nothing of the advanced technology of human biology, and thus having to innovate some kind of excuse wherefrom they would not have to admit to the (also) ignorant laity that they really had no true idea of how this Special Human came to the earthly dimension through knowable biological processes consistent with the progressive revelation of the Holy Scriptures.

How did John traverse both space and time to be able to enter the revelation theater and then return to write about it?

Enoch and Elijah already had, and Jacob/Israel also, and so had Paul; not an unexplainable truth happening to Beloved John the Apostle. There is a spiritual dimension in which Heaven resides, and is substantial; and there is also a temporal physical dimension existing intimately close to the spiritual.

With Jehovah Elohim's enabling, migrating back and forth is possible (the Risen Messiah walked through stone walls), or for a human person to exist in both, is not a mystery to those regenerated servants of the Lord Jesus Messiah who already know of this.

Space travel is in there several times, they just didn’t use those words. Yup, in a vision I saw..

I trust that here you are giving the example of what a prophet like Job (Job 33:14-22) (contemporary with Abraham) or other prophets including Moses (about 500 years later) experienced.

Now, those who have received eternal life, who have been born a second time into the spiritual realm, and thus are a personally sensed entity there, and are literally members of His Heavenly Church (Hebrews 12:23-25), yet coexisting in this body in the temporal realm, until the spirit is withdrawn by God from the physical body which the becomes utterly still, but the soul and spirit remaining very alive in the spiritual dimension.

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Making sense to you, my FRiend?

124 posted on 07/13/2023 7:04:42 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: imardmd1

You’re doing kinda good, now explain the star of Bethlehem. See if you can help me out.


129 posted on 07/13/2023 7:10:25 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: imardmd1

If I recall my kids catechism, the “Immaculate Conception” was the conception of Mary—not Jesus. The thought being that she was without sin, and was created without sin.

Not saying I buy any of it...(I am not Catholic) just trying to be precise in the language.


147 posted on 07/13/2023 7:39:24 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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