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Update from Ukraine | Did Ukraine lost the NATO deal | One more Ruzzian General is lost
Youtube.com ^ | 1-12-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 07/12/2023 5:58:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Update from Ukraine | Did Ukraine lost the NATO deal | One more Ruzzian General is lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Lhbx8XxxY

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the last 48 hours, as of 12th July 2023 – 22:00 https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-504-summary/

*** Great interactive map with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

https://militaryland.net/maps/


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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Zman, if they ask to show you the flowers, don’t go, it’s a trap !

161 posted on 07/14/2023 11:37:26 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: csvset

Please knock-off the abusive posts, NAME-CALLING, TAUNTING, trolling, stalking, flame-baiting, INSULTS, religious insults, flames, threats, ill-wishes, HARRASSING & ANNOYING posts, unwanted posts & FReepmail, etc, etc, etc
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4166577/posts

NOTICE from Mr. Robinson:
Please knock-off the abusive posts, name-calling, taunting, trolling, stalking, flame-baiting, insults, religious insults, flames, threats, ill-wishes, harassing & annoying posts, unwanted posts & FReepmail, etc, etc, etc

Mr. Robinson concluded his post with:
“Finally, if someone says STOP, then STOP! If someone asks you to take them off your ping list, then take them off! If someone asks you to STOP posting to them, the adult and polite thing to do is to accommodate them.
Thank you all very much, and God bless you.”

csvset you are unable to self-censor your comments and comply with Free public Guidelines.

Therefore, I ask you to completely STOP and NOT continue to post/address any comments to me.
Thank you.


162 posted on 07/14/2023 12:01:14 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: Prince of Space

“”””Wow. Never thought I’d see the day on FR when human beings being killed was glorified and celebrated like it is on these Ukraine threads.””””

In addition to post 116 here is an example of how wrong you are, look at this thread from today.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4167813/posts


163 posted on 07/14/2023 12:02:28 PM PDT by ansel12
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164 posted on 07/14/2023 12:05:00 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: csvset; Worldtraveler once upon a time

Join the club! World Traveler and I are distinguished members. 😁

You must have said truthful things and resisted attempts to be gaslighted or manipulated. LOL


165 posted on 07/14/2023 12:42:04 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Allegra
I think it was the meme of Zman with his mop and bucket, in his custodian uniform that triggered her.

What a war though, eh ? Pedophile US President being blackmailed by Euro gangsters .

166 posted on 07/14/2023 12:52:50 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

As I have share with others I now expain my response to you as well :)

It is sad. But I have little tolerance for cyber-bullies.
Obviously, my response is not been because of one single foolish comment posted.

However, the totality of such abusive posts, name-calling, taunting, trolling, stalking, flame-baiting, insults, religious insults, flames, threats, ill-wishes, harrassing & annoying, unwanted slander, gaslighting posts is now over.

I will not respond in kind. Enough is finally enough.

I have come to the realization that mere ‘ghosting’ was just ineffective. Free Republic typically is a tight, caring community. As such, I have repeatedly been notified of their vitriol comments against me, as well as 2 other individuals, has been posted on other threads!

Csvset; Worldtraveler once upon a time; & Allegra are intelligent people. Yet, they are no longer interested or open to meaningful sharing of information or discussion.

As csvset; Worldtraveler once upon a time; & Allegra do not self-censor their comments I politely have requested them to STOP commenting. I bear them no ill will. I just refuse to participate in this sadomasochism game of their need to derive pleasure from inflicting psychological pain.


167 posted on 07/14/2023 1:59:04 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Are you sorry for the 8 yrs of shelling and bombing that the Donbas suffered at the hands of the Azov brigade? Over 14,000 ppl died, mostly civilians. Ukraine’s hands aren’t clean either. The Donbas held a referendum on independence from Ukraine in 2014, which Kiev said they’d honor, with 90% voting yes. And then the Azov brigade started their attacks. They BOTH need to put down their weapons and negotiate a way to peace.


168 posted on 07/14/2023 3:42:18 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: ansel12
US Secretary of State James Baker assured Gorbachev in February 1990 that NATO wouldn’t expand past East Germany. In May 1990 the UN Secretary General repeated that promise. In September 1990 Russia and NATO agreed to allow NATO to station its troops beyond the Iron Curtain but the deal only concerned a reunified Germany and the idea of expanding further east was unimaginable at the time.

Of course, the USSR fell a year later so you’ll likely argue the deal was null and void. But if a verbal agreement by the US to the leader of the USSR could be broken so easily a few years later, it’s no wonder the promises that America makes to other countries are viewed with such suspicion. And if America is free to ignore agreements, then so is Russia.

I’m not rooting for either side in this war, but I don’t fall for the ridiculous propaganda the western media is putting out. Both sides have legitimate grievances, but both sides should negotiate for peace today so this death and destruction can stop.

169 posted on 07/14/2023 4:16:08 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Actually Ukraine became a puppet nation of the US and the global elites by the early 2000s, which is when the raping and pillaging of a “sovereign nation” really began in earnest.


170 posted on 07/14/2023 4:18:20 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Then you should do the same.

You continue to respond to ppl who merely disagree on the need for this war or those who think we should stay out of it. You continue to post inflammatory one-sided “news articles” which are obviously coming out of the Ukraine Ministry of War or their PR Department. Then you gloat over how many Russians were killed thanks to weapons supplied by NATO and the West while Ukraine has refused to list their casualties since this war began.

You’re obviously posting Ukrainian propaganda and expect no dissenting opinions on such an important issue that ALL Americans have a stake in, especially if this war continues to escalate. The fact that you run to the moderators whenever you feel ganged up on is rather pathetic IMO.

171 posted on 07/14/2023 4:29:21 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Prince of Space
Then you gloat over how many Russians were killed thanks to weapons supplied by NATO and the West while Ukraine has refused to list their casualties since this war began.

Yep, starts out with calls to “ pray” , then it’s on to post the War Porn , snuff films.

172 posted on 07/14/2023 4:34:29 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: Prince of Space

If you have a treaty to show between NATO and the Soviet Union, then show it.


173 posted on 07/14/2023 4:38:52 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Prince of Space
You’re obviously posting Ukrainian propaganda and expect no dissenting opinions on such an important issue that ALL Americans have a stake in, especially if this war continues to escalate. The fact that you run to the moderators whenever you feel ganged up on is rather pathetic IMO.

Nailed it. 👍

174 posted on 07/14/2023 4:54:49 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Prince of Space; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ought-six
Regarding replies . . .

I dissent on occasion and in some of my replies (public and private) to UMCRevMom@aol.com. I try to explain support for my view, or I just state my peace and leave it at that, without bashing and smashing.

If / when UMCRevMom@aol.com tells me to "Stop" making replies to her or sending her a message, I will stop.

Regarding original posts (OP) . . .

Jim Robinson has written that FreeRepublic.com is a:

site dedicated to the concerns of traditional grassroots conservative activists. We're here to discuss and advance our conservative causes in a more or less liberal-free environment

Some conservatives oppose U.S. involvement in the war between Russia and Ukraine; some conservatives oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine. (And there are other points of view, re what is going on over there.)

Sometimes I am not satisfied with some information in an Original Post. That info may seem to me to be untruthful, or I know the info is not true, but I do not have an interest in employing bash and smash face writing - when I disagree.

Sometimes I may have knowledge of additional information of service to the OP, so I will spend hours trying to find a good reference and then reply.

I try to find info that may help my argument, or info that adds more details to the OP topic and shows that, sometimes, a different situation may indeed be the case - contrary to the apparent view of the OP.

Often, I feel that I cannot muster the skill to state my argument well -OR- I think that the info that I find in support of my argument, is not sufficient . . . and I save my text file for future reference.

You know a father's love by his restraint, and I prefer Jesus - his preference about, what I may write."

175 posted on 07/14/2023 5:33:58 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Prince of Space

You continue to respond to ALL Freepers. However, I have been experienced to much from cyber-bullies: name-calling, taunting, trolling, stalking, flame-baiting, insults, religious insults, flames, threats, ill-wishes, harrassing & annoying, unwanted slander, gaslighting posts.

I treat all Freepers as I want to be treated.
I’m sorry if I didn’t respond to you comment quickly enough. I am currently out-of-sate & just arrived at my hotel. YEA:)


176 posted on 07/14/2023 6:22:20 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: Prince of Space

RUSSIA MISSPEAKS:
1. Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says “No”
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/

ARTICLE
Did NATO promise not to enlarge? Gorbachev says “no“
Steven Pifer
November 6, 2014
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/
It is abundantly evident that Russian president Vladimir Putin is no fan of NATO. Indeed, he displays a pronounced, almost obsessive, antipathy toward the alliance. He claims that NATO took advantage of Russian weakness after the collapse of the Soviet union to enlarge to its east, in violation of promises, allegedly made to Moscow by western leaders. But no such promises were made, a point now confirmed by someone who is DEFINATELY in a position to know: Mikhail Gorbachev, then president of Soviet union.
President Putin‘s NATO narrative
The West’s supposed violation of a pledge not to enlarge NATO, has long figured as a key element in Putin‘s narrative about, and against, the alliance. In his bombastic February 27 speech to the Munich security conference, he said:
And we have the right to ask: against whom is this NATO expansion intended? And what happened to the assurances our western partners made after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact? I would like to quote the speech of NATO general secretary, Mr. Woerner in Brussels on 17 May 1990. He said at that time that: “the fact that we are ready not to place a NATO army outside of German territory, gives the Soviet union a firm, security guarantee. “Where are these guarantees?
The Russian president returned to the subject in his March 18, 2014 Kremlin speech justifying Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea: “they, western leaders, have lied to us many times, made decisions behind our backs, placed before us an accomplished fact. This happened with NATO’s expansion to the east, as well as the deployment of military infrastructure at our borders.“ although it has been clear for several years that the alliance has no appetite for putting Ukraine on a membership track, Putin went on to express horror at the prospect of NATO forces in Crimea: Russian, inaction, “would have meant that NATO‘s navy would be right there in the city of Russia’s military glory, Sevastopol, and this would create not an illusory, but a perfectly real threat to the whole of southern Russia.“
Western leaders, NEVER PLEDGED, NOT TO ENLARGE NATO, a point that several analysts have demonstrated. Mark Kramer explored the question in detail in a 2009 article in the Washington quarterly. He drew on declassified American German and Soviet records to make his case and noted that, in discussions on German reunification in the 2+4 format, the two Germany’s, plus the United States, Soviet union, Britain, and France, the SOVIETS NEVER raised the question of NATO enlargement, other than how it might apply in the former German democratic republic, GDR.
[Excerpted]


177 posted on 07/14/2023 6:27:36 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: Prince of Space; linMcHlp

I express my opinion, which may differ from yours. However, our different point of views is not an excuse to allow rudeness, insults, shaming, etc.

Thank you for your thoughtful concern. I have been called names & continuously mocked by just a couple or four. However I have been a part of Free Republic & find it a great wealth of information. That being said, I have greatly appreciated your thoughtful comments. BTW, no one has all the historic, political, or economic answers. So, that is why we enter into discussion with other Freepers. Sharing view points and information with others is what Free Republic is all about, not abuse.

I do try not to react. I have tried to defend myself. However, I do not choose to run to moderators or take abuse any longer
Freepers do encourage and share their support. So I will continue to move on.

I have repeatedly stated:
I firmly believe everyone is entitled to freedom of thought and expression. I am not here to be responsible to dictate a viewpoint. The responsibility for each individual is to weigh information and develop their own point of view.

I have a sense of obligation to share information that others may not have access.


178 posted on 07/14/2023 6:45:14 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: csvset; Allegra
--- "Then you gloat over how many Russians were killed thanks to weapons supplied by NATO and the West while Ukraine has refused to list their casualties since this war began. --- Yep, starts out with calls to ' pray', then it's on to post the War Porn....."

Dear csvset --- That has become my view of the game.

I had posted to another on a similar and post it here again for you, sir.

Thank you for posting the appeal denial, from which one reads: "Davydov testified about the hardship he would face as he has no family in Ukraine, does not speak the language, and would likely not be able to see his mother again."

It is fascinating to consider this YouTuber.

One finds many ways to fund him:

🔥 Support Pilot Blog on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/PilotBlog 🔥 Donate here: https://donatello.to/DenyDay 🔥 Find me on PayPal :aviatorssecretary@gmail.com Link to PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted... You may check the military map here: https://militaryland.net/ https://deepstatemap.live/ Enjoy:) ✈ By the way follow me on Instagram I have up to date uploads there. https://www.instagram.com/denys_pilot/ ✈ Pilot Blog Telegram Channel: https://t.me/pilotblog ✈ Pilot Blog Discord community: https://discord.gg/Yw6hhZgKpz ✈ SUBSCRIBE!!! https://www.youtube.com/c/PilotBlogAi...

Source: https://sites.libsyn.com/434538/about

Another source: https://tlgrm.eu/channels/@pilotblog

Another source: https://podtail.com/en/podcast/ukraine-war-daily-briefing-with-denys-davydov/

Among the interesting tidbits, one finds this:

Denys Davydov net worth
$ 120K - $ 720K
Denys Davydov income
$ 8.24K
LAST 7 DAYS
ESTIMATED EARNINGS
$ 32.9K
LAST 30 DAYS

$ 97.1K

Source: https://tz.youtubers.me/denys-davydov/youtube-estimated-earnings/en

Posing daily -- or almost daily -- to so many varying online outlets, including the content creation (as YouTube calls it) -- of videos, podcasts, and other sorts of "reporting" seems to represent a great deal of time in a day creating "content."

Best wishes, as you consider more about the daily posting of a single YouTube channel and its very busy-online content creator, as is this thread's.

Such is the cited information. In it as in this message to you, one will find no "cyber-bullies: name-calling, taunting, trolling, stalking, flame-baiting, insults, religious insults, flames, threats, ill-wishes, harrassing & annoying, unwanted slander, gaslighting posts."

179 posted on 07/15/2023 5:26:21 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Very interesting. Thank you for digging up that information. It looks like Denys is pulling down over $400K a year just for posting daily propaganda on YouTube.

I figured propagandizing could be quite lucrative to those who have the time and devotion. It does take the type of people who have no conscience issues with spreading fiction that could have serious impacts globally, but it takes all kinds to make a world, I suppose.


180 posted on 07/15/2023 7:37:32 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers<I>)
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