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To: Duke C.

This all begs the question: is the Stinger the best portable AA missile that we have? If so, we should have tens of thousands in storage, and if not then why build them instead of the more modern one. This doesn’t make much sense.

That said, I hope that the retirees drive a hard bargain and get their pensions bumped up a bunch, in addition to a bunch of salary. Maybe , in addition to teaching the newer generation how to make Stingers, they can also toughen them up. Oh, and maybe Raytheon and the other contractors will start putting away blueprints and procedure books so that this doesn’t happen again.


18 posted on 07/09/2023 9:27:43 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

Blue prints don’t tell the whole story. It’s probably like not being able to build a Saturn V now


19 posted on 07/09/2023 10:07:35 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: Ancesthntr
Raytheon and the other contractors will start putting away blueprints and procedure books so that this doesn’t happen again.

This isn't the problem. Raytheon has all the Stinger books and outlines, but its workers don't have the "know how."

20 posted on 07/09/2023 10:07:53 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Ancesthntr
we should have tens of thousands in storage

All gone. Pentagon war planners have been shocked by Ukraine's consumption rates. And the US stockpiles of missiles and ammunition before the war were not as great as previously thought. This is what happens when you fight a military peer. The US hasn't done this since 1945.

21 posted on 07/09/2023 10:26:20 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Ancesthntr

“This all begs the question: is the Stinger the best portable AA missile that we have?”

No. The US has, lately, been buying the much more modern Polish Piorun. The Stinger however is the only manpad the US can set up to make domestically.

The US never developed another manpad design, as it was assumed these would be redundant, given the full set of capabilities the US could bring to bear on enemy aircraft.


26 posted on 07/10/2023 1:11:12 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Ancesthntr; Right_Wing_Madman

“...is the Stinger the best portable AA missile that we have?”

Or is it more of a case of the Uke’s having enough money to buy the old style, along with expertise in the older technology?

I still use 20 year-old equipment for my work. Yes, the new stuff has some nicer bells and whistles and with some experience might make my job easier, but at my age I’m not going to put down $50k on a new system when my old one works just fine for what I need.

Maybe it’s the same with missiles?


28 posted on 07/10/2023 1:19:51 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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