[DesertRhino]

Retarded. NATO joins Ukraine, the unchallenged home of Nazism in the world, and gets instantly dragged into their war of conquest in the Donbass?

[laconic]

Put the sons and daughters of the neocons advocating this disaster in the front line. No more of the Dick Cheney about VN - ‘it wasn’t in my plan” - No, its in your plan and you are going to have to fight what you advocate, neocon warmongers.

[Tench_Coxe]

They're trying to figure out how to put in large numbers of US troops under a fig leaf, somehow thinking "well now Ukraine is part of NATO. Article 5 time!", and also bypassing the correct procedure of a formal declaration via Congress, which despite the Lindsey Grahams, would not pass for fear of a REAL insurrection.

I doubt a sneaky "deemed a member" manouver eouldn't result in the same thing.