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This is a total failure of natofop/neoconwanker planninig and intelligence. They had no realistic idea of what they were getting into.


2 posted on 07/04/2023 11:22:54 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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..I don’t have a dog in this fight....I opposed our sending billions if not trillions of aid, military and otherwise, to which is perhaps the most corrupt country in Europe, and was never on board that the Uke could take on Russia’s military might and come out as the winner...but could at least some credit be given to Col. Douglas MacGregor who said almost from the beginning that all the reports coming out about Ukraine’s military victories was pure horse**t propaganda and lies....


3 posted on 07/04/2023 11:28:20 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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They have every idea. It has never been about winning or even about Ukraine surviving. It is about the opportunity to manipulate a crisis to make people support the movement of money to a cause that can be exploited financially. The wealthy will always use the power of government to protect and promote their own wealth. This includes people in government who want wealth.


4 posted on 07/04/2023 12:10:33 PM PDT by webheart
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“This is a total failure of natofop/neoconwanker planninig and intelligence. They had no realistic idea of what they were getting into.”

I doubt that...they ALWAYS knew how it would end. That’s why there will likely be war crime tribunals after this crap ends.


8 posted on 07/04/2023 12:30:27 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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How is it lack of planning by NATO?

NATO did not start the war.

In spite of being surprised by the Russian attack, Ukraine stopped the attack before significant NATO weapons were brought into play.

It seems smart weapons have neutralized the Russian advantage in dumb artillery.

16 posted on 07/04/2023 3:24:13 PM PDT by marktwain
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