Posted on 07/03/2023 10:10:12 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Have a pleasant evening.
Trump lied when he said he opposed gay marriage in 2015 and 2016. That is the bottom line.
You are a pretty aggressive promoter/defender of the gay power movement, even twisting the bible to work the agenda.
The part about working for the cabal is not advertised, because it works against the goal of concealing it. Implementing a few policies on a state level is a small price to pay for what they hope to achieve.
No, I mean like DeSantis, who works for the deep state cabal while pretending to be something different.
“ I would be ashamed to be as focused on sex as you seem to be.”
Well it appears you are determined to defend mainstreaming the acceptance of homosexual lifestyles.
I don’t care what homosexuals do in the privacy of their homes, that’s the way it used to be.
I have a HUGE problem however with the forced acceptance of their lifestyles and the forced shutting down of opposition to their lifestyles.
This has led to teaching that their lifestyle choice is just as good as normal marriage .
That is sick and unhealthy. And embracing of darkness and death.
Why you posting here on FR would be defending that unhealthy and deadly lifestyle is very strange .
I hope you reconsider your support of debased lifestyles .
Actually it appears we agree. I do not accept their lifestyle choice. I am the happiest when it is not brought to my attention. I am the original don’t ask don’t tell.
I want all reference to homosexuality removed from school. Facts of life in biology and the rest left to parents. No public pride parades, only restricted to areas that are private and restrict admittance to adults. Good bye Pride month, black history month etc.
Me too..
“I have a HUGE problem however with the forced acceptance of their lifestyles and the forced shutting down of opposition to their lifestyles.
This has led to teaching that their lifestyle choice is just as good as normal marriage .
That is sick and unhealthy. And embracing of darkness and death.”
I just am not willing to abridge the rights of otherwise law abiding people who are contributing to society. If someone fights for Conservative principles or helps clean up slums or spearheads for people to quit the democrat plantation I will applaud those efforts whatever their personal choice of mate.
Present your proof. Most DeSantis supporters find these claims absent of any real evidence, because they so far have been. Do you have anything of significance to offer?
The bottom line is that you are again putting your words and your interpretation in Trump’s mouth and pretending that you are representing his words & position.
You do that despite the evidence in the written record. It is incredibly dishonest to take one sentence out of context and use it to paint a false picture. Do you honestly think anyone believes you?
I’m not misrepresenting anything, you are. Based on the links I’ve already given, Trump was clearly on the record with his SUPPOSED opposition to gay marriage, which he clearly FAKED in order to gather votes, before coming out of the closet immediately after the election proving he was lying all along.
Look at how deep his lies ran. Here he is claiming Ted Cruz was a hypocrite on the issue, when time has proven Trump was clearly the hypocrite all along!
Trump: Ted Cruz Is a ‘Total Hypocrite’ on Same-Sex Marriage
https://www.advocate.com/politicians/2016/1/17/trump-ted-cruz-total-hypocrite-same-sex-marriage
HISTORY HAS SHOWN TRUMP WAS THE “TOTAL HYPOCRITE”
BTW, I’m done debating you. You are clearly a un-repentant Trump/sodomite supporter, who will twist the truth any way you can to misrepresent the facts of Trump’s lies on the subject. I’ve posted MULTIPLE links to set the record straight on the history of events, while you’ve done nothing but post drivel to distract from the truth.
Which mentality is close to what the manual of mendacity worked to achieve, a strategy set forth in the book "After the Ball" years ago by two homosexual Harvard-trained graduates, Marshall Kirk (1957–2005), a researcher in neuropsychiatry, and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill) whose social marketing advocated avoiding portraying gays as aggressive challengers, but as victims instead, while making all those who opposed them to be evil persecutors. "The campaign we outline in this book, though complex, depends centrally upon a program of unabashed propaganda, firmly grounded in long-established principles of psychology and advertising." (After the Ball, p. xxviii).
Which includes promoting the premise that what is done in private does not affect you:
"as long as Joe Six-pack feels little pressure to perform likewise, and as long as the behavior in question presents little threat to his physical and financial security, he soon gets used to it and life goes on.... the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent-.. "
Note that Marshall Kirk (1957–2005) was a researcher in neuropsychiatry, and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill), was schooled in social marketing. "The “born gay” hoax was invented in 1985 by Marshall Kirk and Dr. Hunter Madsen. Marshall Kirk graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University in 1980 majoring in Psychology and went on to become a writer and researcher in neuropsychiatry. Dr. Hunter Madsen earned a PhD in politics from Harvard University in 1985, then went on to become an expert on public persuasion tactics, social marketing, and has designed commercial marketing on Madison Avenue. He has also served as a consultant to pro-sodomy media campaigns across America." - https://huntermadsenportmoody.wordpress.com/tag/harvard/
Marshall Kirk died in 2005 at the young age of 47. The cause of death has not been publicly revealed. But if you think obedience to God, including private, is not to be affirmed and promoted by the gov., and the contrary reproved, or that what is done in private does not affect you, then at least consider:
Everyone in the deep state loves DeSantis.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/06/30/desantiss-yale-fundraiser-hosted-by-top-bush-allies/
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/06/30/pushaw-panic-desantis-iran-donor-story-triggers-tallahassee/
Thanks, better than most.
1. A Bush leftover is helping DeSantis fundraise in NY. Ok. Well, a Bush leftover is helping Trump fundraise in NH:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/28/trump-jeb-new-hampshire-00089212
And Trump has had many “Bushies” help him over the years:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/23/trump-administration-bush-george-hires-1074498
So as far as help from former “Bushies” goes, Trump has gotten far more, has he not? One fundraiser in NY is it for DeSantis?
2. A so far unsubstantiated claim about someone from Iran. Nothing to do with the “deep state” really is it? How so?
3. Koch network is wanting to take out Trump. Ok, but according to the article, they’re not settled on DeSantis.
Quote from the linked article source:
“With seven months until the primaries, the Koch coalition of conservatives is still searching for who its influential and wealthy donors believe can take down the former president”
“Let the one among you who is without sin cast the first stone!”
One candidate is targeted by the GOPe homosexual LogCabin guys for vitriol. The other is supported by such.
You post as though it is up to you to decide for others what their wisest course is and to mandate the same, It is not. Even though the choice is one that leads to disease, morbidity, mortality & is associated with other damaging practices God gave man free will and America is founded to respect individual liberty.
I hold no brief for the practice. I would mourn that decision in a family member but it is a personal decision. The only gleam of light is that statistics do not give information about the circumstances of any one human being. There is room to hope that any loved one can still forge a life that contributes to society, brings personal happiness and harms no one.
What I do not tolerate is depersonalizing anyone on the basis of the choice of a partner. Embrace of the “traditional” gay life style with numerous hookups, drugs, and other practices is a different story but it should be recognized that the same life style chosen by heterosexuals is equally reprehensible and debauched.
Sorry I missed this reply, but no, I do not post as though it is up to you to decide for others what their wisest course is and to mandate the same, but that it is up to God to say that is moral or immoral, and that the government is to affirm and reward virtue and moral behavior, and as regards clearly immoral actions, to outlaw them, if only intervening for disobedience within a home in flagrant evident cases.
In contrast to which is affirming clearly immoral behavior and promoting them, as the gov. overall does with homosexuality and abortion for instance, punishing those who will not affirm such.
There is room to hope that any loved one can still forge a life that contributes to society, brings personal happiness and harms no one.
It is simply impossible to no affect others, even by doing nothing. It is only a matter of degrees, and whether it benefits or harms. And as shown, fornication, esp. promiscuity, costs and otherwise negatively affects the family and society overall. As does contraception. What I do not tolerate is depersonalizing anyone on the basis of the choice of a partner.
Your creator is the one who knows what that should be, and uses negative terms for the impenitent sinners, regardless whatever name you want to call it. A fornicator is a correct negative term for one who chooses sex outside marriage, and avoids the lifetime commitment of marriage that it is to take place in, and which provides the stable safe context for avoids the natural normal results of that. Or remains unmarried with children for financial reasons.
Yet there are lesser and greater sins we all have been guilty of and must repent of with faith in the Lord Jesus who gave Himself for us. Thanks be to God.
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