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To: dangus
"Being drafted to defend your own country is not being Shanghaied"

Being forcibly rounded up by press gangs because incompetent rulers have started a war with a nation 30 times more powerful than yours at the instigation and for the nefarious purposes of neoconn criminals, is being Shanghaied.

17 posted on 06/28/2023 7:08:09 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: ganeemead
incompetent rulers have started a war with a nation 30 times more powerful than yours

Do you realize how dumb you look trying to claim that Ukraine started the war? Russia seized Crimea in 2014. Russia seized parts of the Donbas shortly after that. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Russia started the war. Pretending that is not true might get you an extra serving or borscht in the cafeteria but it won't fool anyone else.

19 posted on 06/28/2023 7:45:56 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ganeemead

That time when the Ukrainians rained missiles down on Moscow was such the horror! Oh, wait... it was the other way around.

And WTF is a “press gang”? And did you really call Obama and Biden “neocon” criminals?

This is how the internet sucks any reason out of people’s minds! Biden was so intent on making Russia out to be the enemy so he could pin treason on Trump, that he actually made Russia into an enemy. This is true. The Democrats’ foreign policy was based purely on scoring domestic political hits, and were it not for their utter disregard for the fact that Russia actually was a real threat, we could have avoided war with Russia. And had we not handled matters like Bosnia/Serbia, Syria, etc., so terribly previously, Russia need not have ever re-emerged as a threat.

But the notion that our diplomatic failures amount to “starting a war” is like saying a black murderer is innocent because that white guy was walking around East St Louis after dark.

Russia invaded Ukraine. Nothing Biden or Obama or Zelenskyy did can ever justify that.


21 posted on 06/28/2023 8:52:58 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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