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To: cgbg
"Where we disagree is that I think the stuff is real and you do not"

One of the references I have used in previous discussions about the (lack of) extraterrestrial intelligent life is The Anthropic Cosmological Principle (1986) by John D. Barrow and Frank J. Tipler, particularly their Chapter 8, "The Anthropic Principle and Biochemistry," and Chapter 9, "The Space-Travel Argument Against the Existence of Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life" (a more detail explanation of Enrico Fermi's quip, "If they existed they would be here.").

There are other papers and books that deal with the critical (planetary, solar system, and galactic) factors needed for intelligent life to exist. More of these factors are likely to be uncovered, but those known so far reduce Drake's probability equation for a planet in the galaxy containing intelligent life very close to the experimentally measured value of one.

79 posted on 06/27/2023 2:27:23 PM PDT by Carl Vehse (Move the Overton window to the right with defenestration.)
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To: Carl Vehse

We come at this topic from exactly opposite directions.

I have zero interest in academic analysis.

Human anecdotes from history and the present are data that get my attention.

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80 posted on 06/27/2023 2:45:32 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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