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The globular star cluster M92, shown here in an image from the Hubble Space Telescope, appears to be about 13.8 billion years old — the same age as the universe.
ESA/Hubble, NASA, Gilles Chapdelaine
ESA/Hubble, NASA, Gilles Chapdelaine

1 posted on 06/24/2023 7:14:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
A star cluster in the Milky Way appears to be as old as the universe

Almost as old as Biden or Sanders

3 posted on 06/24/2023 7:20:47 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SunkenCiv

The star “cluster” may be that old, but wouldn’t any actual stars be less than that old (or at least just about burned out by now)?


6 posted on 06/24/2023 7:28:56 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SunkenCiv

More mumbo jumbo space crap. Centuries ago and millenniums away.

And yet a deep sea sub can implode in 1 millisecond.


8 posted on 06/24/2023 7:57:16 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: SunkenCiv
One way around that tension is to accept a different age for the universe

Heck yeah! Never adjust your weak assumptions; keep them. Just move the goalpost.

14 posted on 06/24/2023 9:29:05 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: SunkenCiv

Notice how they keep “moving the goalposts”—making the universe older and older.

It is getting older faster than I am...

;-)


15 posted on 06/24/2023 9:30:26 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: SunkenCiv

What a coincidence! Our galaxy just happens to be at the center of the expanding universe!

Didn’t we make this mistake once before?


17 posted on 06/24/2023 9:33:37 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: SunkenCiv

Feed me-—
The Astronomers

How could something as old as the universe be so close to us? Was Hubbles idea incomplete? How much, presented as fact, is not?

Waiting for De Grasse Tyson, Dawkins, Krauss, Greene, Nye to explain this.


18 posted on 06/24/2023 9:40:12 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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The big bang was the installation procedure for spacetime, which is a construct. Rather than the beginning of everything. Spacetime does not emerge unbidden from quantum particle physics any more than does a football stadium. Both are possible, of course, but only as a result of intelligence and intention.

If the canvas of spacetime is constructed, it follows that everything painted onto spacetime is likewise. Space, energy, time, matter, us.


19 posted on 06/24/2023 12:08:18 PM PDT by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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“The Hubble tension itself is a really challenging nut to crack,” Freedman says. This measurement alone isn’t precise enough to settle the debate. But “the more kinds of constraints we have, the better,” she says. “It’s showing a way for the future.”
I'm just gonna let that one percolate on its own...
20 posted on 06/24/2023 6:28:35 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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