Posted on 06/23/2023 4:46:32 AM PDT by spirited irish
The stupid part about the HRO kerfluffle is that Tom Clancy ended up proving that everything in the book and movie that was ‘sensitive’ was actually published openly by the Navy, Congress, or both.
FYI: The original SOSUS was not only declassified, it was handed over for open civilian research usage more than a decade ago when it was replaced by something better. The original SOSUS would have been able to do this, so it’s not exactly giving secrets away.
The rumor is that they just gave Kamala a microscope and told her to search for the remains.
;-)
The rumor is that they just gave Kamala a microscope and told her to search for the remains.
;-)
Clever plan.
Actually, the interiors were not filmed on a real sub - they were on a soundstage. The Navy assisted with the film so as to be able to get some control over what would be produced and as a recruiting tool. The exterior shots were of USS Houston; the interior sets were created with the Navy to be as realistic as possible at first glance but important details that were not known to have already been exposed or in the possession of our enemies were left out, changed to be wrong, etc.
You don’t have to, it’s openly available: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOSUS#Civilian_science_applications
Interesting. Thanks.
Time and technology marches on, I’m afraid.
I just read that sub made 3 dives to the Titanic in the past 3 years.
At sea level, the atmospheric pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch or around 100 kPa. At a depth of only 10 meters, the water exerts twice the pressure (2 atmospheres or 200 kPa) as air at surface level. Pressure increases at the same steady rate through a diver’s descent, limiting one in a free dive to a around 300 feet, or less than 100 meters. I consider that pretty rapid rate of increase.
“A billionaire wasnt smart enough to make sure this thing could withstand the pressure.“
This reminds me of the time The Beatles befriended a self-proclaimed “inventor” and he told them he could build them a beyond state of the art studio for them.
They were impressed by all his chatter, but when the time came, they found out that he had NO idea what he was doing. They had to have their old EMI staff rush in and rebuild a proper studio…
Mind you, no life and death was invoked there, unlike this whole submarine fiasco.
I’m guessing they hired some big talkers to build their sub for them…
I am as far away an engineer as it gets, but even I know that if you’re building something like that - potentially life threatening- you make prototypes to destroy every way you can possibly think of before the finial product.
Apparently, this guy couldn’t be bothered…
Yep. Even Rickover (supposedly) and (more importantly to me) my welding teacher was hugely impressed. Actually inspirational at the time since my dream was to get an engineering degree and be one of the first welders in outer space. Being an SF geek and working on my certifications....
Be it the cold war or now, no one ever won a battle by underestimating their enemy.
We probably knew the Russians knew it once we busted Hanssen.
I remember reading ‘Defense Science’ back in the 1980’s and being amazed that this stuff wasn’t classified. My (literal) rocket scientist uncle casually said ‘this is the stuff we know they know about’. or words to that effect.
Fine, but no point in using a single taxpayer cent to do it.
Exactly. Imagine if the Navy said, "We heard a boom. They're dead. No reason to check it out." The public would've torn them up!
At any rate, of course the Navy was going to arrive on-scene. They have an interest in recovering what's left of the submersible for at the very least, scientific analysis of the debris.
Well, in the case of the Titan implosion, no Sherpas lost their lives.
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