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To: Tell It Right
A lot of Europeans were captured by white Muslim pirates and sold into slavery as well. I think the latest Turkish slave raid on Sardinia was 1816.

The Christian victory at Lepanto in 1571 freed something like 10,000 European Christians who were galley slaves in the Turkish fleet.

29 posted on 06/02/2023 11:38:02 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Question: how white were the Turks before the centuries of white sex slaves perhaps lightening up the gene pool? It's possible they were as white then as they are now. But it's also possible they were darker (though probably not as dark as sub-Saharan Africans). I'm leaning toward them being pretty white since they are probably descendants of Japheth, but I don't know for sure. It's not like we had Polaroid cameras back then.

However, I'm pretty sure the Arabs (probably descendants of Shem) were darker than the mix of Arabs/whites in North Africa who did most of the slave trading of Europeans. And I think it's safe to say the north Africans were probably a lot darker then too (before centuries of white sex slaves lightened up the gene pool and before many captured whites freed themselves from slavery by "turning Turk" and joining the pirates). As dark as Ethiopians? Nope. But I wouldn't be surprised if the north Africans then could pass for black today. The truth is we don't know.

If I had to guess, I'd say the old artist drawings of the Barbary Wars like this one best depicts the color of the north Africans from before the Ottoman slave trade. Of course, if I'm right, both blacks and whites have to eat a little crow about historical figures. This would suggest that "black" Simon of Cyrene who carried Jesus' cross was probably not as black as many black Christians make him out to be (Cyrene is in modern day Libya, not Eretria or Ethiopia or Congo). It would also mean that many of our early church fathers in north Africa (i.e. St. Augustine of Hippo) was probably a bit darker than white modern day Algerians.


33 posted on 06/02/2023 12:17:55 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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