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I have long been convinced that the real fascists are on the political left. I never appreciated that this applied in literature also.
1 posted on 05/29/2023 2:05:10 PM PDT by ChessExpert
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I have long been convinced that the real fascists are on the political left.

Anyone with a brain would understand that.

2 posted on 05/29/2023 2:06:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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God does not exist—religion in science is an absurdity, in practice an immorality and in men a disease. …

— Mussolini, 1924

Fascism establishes the real equality of individuals before the nation… the object of the regime in the economic field is to ensure higher social justice for the whole of the Italian people… What does social justice mean? It means work guaranteed, fair wages, decent homes; it means the possibility of continuous evolution and improvement. Nor is this enough. It means that the workers must enter more and more intimately into the productive process and share its necessary discipline… As the past century was the century of capitalist power, the twentieth century is the century of power and glory of labor.

— Mussolini, 1935

When the war is over, in the world’s social revolution that will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth’s riches, due account must be kept of the sacrifices and of the discipline maintained by the Italian workers. The Fascist revolution will make another decisive step to shorten social distances. …

— Mussolini, 1941
Looks a lot like the political (and social) left, yes? All from when Mussolini was in power as a fascist.
3 posted on 05/29/2023 2:08:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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4 posted on 05/29/2023 2:17:05 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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Roughly one out of 3 people are your enenmy.


5 posted on 05/29/2023 2:18:08 PM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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Not sure if this article is trying to remove T. S. Elliot from conservative ranks but it should not happen.

“The world is trying the experiment of attempting to form a civilized but non-Christian mentality. The experiment will fail; but we must be very patient in awaiting its collapse; meanwhile redeeming the time; so that the Faith may be preserved alive through the dark ages before us; to renew and rebuild civilization, and to save the world from suicide.”
T.S. Eliot, Christianity and Culture


7 posted on 05/29/2023 2:23:35 PM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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Distaste with, dissent from, and reaction against the crudity and shallowness of modern culture is a common feature of conservative and traditionalist thought. It can easily be compatible with pro-free market and pro-capitalist political views.


12 posted on 05/29/2023 2:52:03 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Pound and Picasso were actual fascists. I do not see this at all in Eliot, who was a favorite of the great conservative thinker, Dr. Russell Kirk (and of mine.) Kirk called his seminal book The Conservative Mind: From Burke to Eliot.
13 posted on 05/29/2023 2:52:58 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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Fascism began when certain socialists became disillusioned that the Revolution could or would happen. They woke up from Marx’s fairy tales but still wanted what Marx promised. Whet the socialists may call them killing the landlord’s butts was just them moderating in hopes of getting more of the well heeled chattering classes on board and with that get some of the goodies.

Fascism is the Left. It always shared the same underlying assumptions. It still does even though the real fascists, all still Leftists, want to call anyone they disagree with fascists.

Fascism compares with Gramsci’s efforts, for he too gave up on Marx’s proletariat and changed his focus onto the commies in the chattering classes, who Stalin called useful idiots, hoping for the top down crap we are presently fighting.


15 posted on 05/29/2023 2:54:44 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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The introductory paragraph:

“During a seminar on Modernism, funded by the National Endowment for the Humanities, I delivered a presentation linking modernist ideas with fascism; communism; and other anti-democratic, authoritarian political systems. My presentation was not well received by the seminar’s director, a left-wing professor at UNC-Chapel Hill. What he especially objected to was my evidence that Modernism is an inherently reactionary, anti-modern cultural movement and that deathly figures such as Hitler and Mao were modernists in their cultural tendencies.”


19 posted on 05/29/2023 2:57:57 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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Healthy minds accept the personal responsibility to maintain the well-being of themselves and their families etc.. This ensures a stable and productive society.

Diseased minds reject this responsibility and rely on a totalitarian government to provide the goods and services that their careless and nonproductive lifestyles would otherwise deny them. This is, of course, accomplished at the expense of the productive.

Whether seen in a fascistic or socialistic light, it's all totalitarianism to me.

23 posted on 05/29/2023 3:11:18 PM PDT by PerConPat ( A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.- Mencken)
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The author is confusing the two types of modernity: early modernity (basically Machiavelli through our Founders) and late modernity (Rousseau through Marx and Lenin).

Late modernity rejects early modern liberalism but not its rationalism, so they seek a hyper-rational illiberal state, of either a leftwing or a rightwing variety. The leftists believe in a cosmopolitan, universal class structure that justifies any action to combat it including eliminating any "bourgeois" rights. The right believes that society can be perfected only through ethno-nationalism that also justifies any action including the suppression of "bourgeois" rights.

What's happening in the US is that the left has seized on "racism" as a useful cudgel to create an all powerful state while the oligarchs have realized that funding social communism gives them cover to continue looting the country. So the US has a confusing mix where the left appeals to ethnicity while the oligarchy is rewarded with monopolies and corporate fascist public-private cooperation like the Big Tech censorship programs.

24 posted on 05/29/2023 3:16:51 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Modernism, in the form of modern architecture and abstract expressionist art wasn’t hostile to modern capitalism.

The modernism of Eliot may have picked up on some of the weaknesses of modern secular “bourgeois” capitalism, which led to what we have now.


35 posted on 05/29/2023 5:58:34 PM PDT by x
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