Posted on 05/29/2023 11:02:51 AM PDT by outofsalt
"The prime suspect in the unsolved 2005 disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway was severely beaten in the Peruvian prison where he is currently being held, his lawyer told ABC News Monday."
(Excerpt) Read more at abc3340.com ...
psychopath deserves everything he has coming
Goddamn right. Screw those naive pretty girls. Not van der Sloot's fault.
She probably even dressed sexily.
I say you are adjudicated in the country where the crime was committed. If you extort money in Peru from an American, you are on that countries soil,hence its a Peruvian government problem, not ours.
That’s providing IF he survives being in jail here.
He is literally dead man walking.
😂😂
Besides, if he's physically in Peru but using telephones, etc., to commit fraud and extortion against persons in the USA, the USA has every right to go after him. If some foreigner were committing extortion against you, you would say the same thing.
No jurisdiction. Extortion from a phone in Peru isn’t U.S. jurisdiction. The fascist United States has long used the “any connection to American soil is American jurisdiction” for decades. For the record, the Allies didn’t even have jurisdiction to execute Nazi officials for “crimes” since 1) everything they did was perfectly legal and 2) again no jurisdiction.
You want to shoot the NDSAP leadership as an act of war, fine, , but dont pretend there was some sort of legal basis. Ex post facto law, no jurisdiction, sovereign state actors, so many reasons to not have trials! There is no crime here for American courts to deal with. The Peruvians sure.
But that telephone call has two ends, one in the United States. Beth Holloway was on the United States end of that phone call.
Besides, the wire transfer originated from the United States. Doesn't that make the wire fraud charge a United States jurisdictional crime?
-PJ
Haha you’re reaching . Fine whatever, unlimited American power then. Unlimited punishment for Jan. 6 patriots. Police should attack whoever they want. Laws should be used to shut down speech and freedoms. Unpopular people should be prosecuted.
Why not? Once you give up limits on power and jurisdiction in legitimate legal matters, anything goes. But of course you and most people won’t see the connection.
The wire transfer originated in the United States, yes or no?
-PJ
The wire transfer was perfectly legal. The fraudulent communication wasn’t. The call was from Peru and the caller was in Peru.
The logic you’re using is lawyer logic of the worst kind i.e. the American kind. Traditional common law would never recognize such nonsense.
It’s none of the governments business that she was stupid and made a wire transfer. The dumb broad shoud have known better and the government should stick to stuff within U.S. borders.
If I had their kind of money I would make sure that happened often
What constitutes an illegal wire transfer? How can there even be a charge of wire fraud when the actual act of transferring the money is done via normal means?
Let me put it another way: if a person makes mail fraud and the target puts a stamp on the envelope and mails it, is it not mail fraud because the mail was legally sent?
More...
From the United States Department of Justice (9/10/2019): 281 Arrested Worldwide in Coordinated International Enforcement Operation Targeting Hundreds of Individuals in Business Email Compromise Schemes
Excerpt:
Federal authorities announced today a significant coordinated effort to disrupt Business Email Compromise (BEC) schemes that are designed to intercept and hijack wire transfers from businesses and individuals, including many senior citizens. Operation reWired, a coordinated law enforcement effort by the U.S. Department of Justice, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Department of the Treasury, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, and the U.S. Department of State, was conducted over a four-month period, resulting in 281 arrests in the United States and overseas, including 167 in Nigeria, 18 in Turkey and 15 in Ghana. Arrests were also made in France, Italy, Japan, Kenya, Malaysia, and the United Kingdom (UK). The operation also resulted in the seizure of nearly $3.7 million.[snip]
Foreign citizens perpetrate many BEC scams. Those individuals are often members of transnational criminal organizations, which originated in Nigeria but have spread throughout the world.
“The Department of Justice has increased efforts in taking aggressive enforcement action against fraudsters who are targeting American citizens and their businesses in business email compromise schemes and other cyber-enabled financial crimes,” said Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen. “In this latest four-month operation, we have arrested 74 people in the United States and 207 others have been arrested overseas for alleged financial fraud. The coordinated efforts with our domestic and international law enforcement partners around the world has made these most recent actions more successful.
[snip]
“The investigation of these crimes crossed international borders,” said Director Todd J. Brown of the U.S. Department of State’s Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). “Today’s charges are another successful example of our commitment to working together with both foreign colleagues abroad as well as local, state and federal law enforcement partners here at home in the pursuit of those who commit cyber-related financial crimes.”
[snip]
This operation serves as a model for international cooperation against specific threats that endanger the financial well-being of each member country’s residents.
So your argument collapses. International cooperation at both ends of the crime. This particular announcement doesn't mention Peru, the European Union, or the Netherlands (Aruba), but it clearly shows that international cooperation to combat wire fraud is legal and jurisdictional.
-PJ
You’re quoting American law, which is one of the shoddiest, most dictatorial and circular-argument piles of steaming garbage in existence. This is the system that can “indict a ham sandwich”. The system that incarcerates hordes of unproven crimes, the system that started your civil war, promoted slavery and on and on.
American law and government is a fascist dictatorship. Same as Russia, China or NDSAP Germany, but with a fig leaf of self-justification. The only things that have held off American fascism are the Constitution and Bill of Rights and those are collapsing.
Go ahead and support American law, but don’t complain about how your freedoms are being eroded. You’re not smart enough to connect the two.
Too bad they did not kill him. Now he will come over here and gloat at the Holloway family.
I, on the other hand, am quite content with my station in life.
Good luck to you.
-PJ
The hellhole isn’t here yet. Give it a generation. Or move to the inner city.
America 2023 sucks and you know it. Don’t be blindly “patriotic”. That America of yesteryear doesn’t exist anymore. It was great while it lasted.
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