I appreciated all of your posts….it wasn’t a waste of time because I learned a few things.
Granted, those you were corresponding with learned nothing. They are very good at changing subjects once called out and not acknowledging the initial subject.
The DeSantis supporters are very repetitive until exposed, then they bark about something else. Definitely not debating or showing any integrity. I’ve had several interactions with the handful of DeSantis barkers and rarely even get a response…….because they can’t argue facts. They are hurting this platform.
What they don’t understand - NO MINDS ARE BEING CHANGED and THEY ARE PUSHING FENCE SITTERS AWAY FROM DESANTIS.
How? When they bark for DeSantis it triggers responses with information the fence sitter never knew. The DeSantis barker ignores the response and changes subjects. The fence sitters realize the DeSantis barker is a propagandist.
Not a winning strategy …… yet the same barkers do it repeatedly on every Trump/DeSantis thread.
They'll lie and mis-represent something, and when you try to argue/dispute them, they
lie more, mis-direct the arguement, go off on tangents and change the subject
start moving the goal post
and when all that fails, they start doing personal attacks
They don't care about winning an arguement, they just want to push a lie, then screw up attempts at rebuttals so people only remember the original lie
Yesterday I learned a lot about Reedy Creek. The picture being presented is misleading and frankly disingenuous. Not only is the timing indicative that the impetus is payback which is an unethical use of power but the rollout was botched leaving Disney a very good case in court. The timing and DeSantis statements make it likely that Disney will win it's law suit. The cost of DeSantis' vindictiveness will be borne by Floridians and is potentially very significant.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/desantis-tough-words-may-come-back-haunt-him-disney-lawsuit-experts-2023-04-28/
Disney claimed in its lawsuit that the state adopted a "targeted campaign of government retaliation — orchestrated at every step by Governor DeSantis as punishment for Disney’s protected speech."
The U.S. Supreme Court in a 2010 case known as Citizens United ruled that government could not limit political speech of corporations and other entities under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
https://www.wftv.com/news/local/heres-what-dissolving-disneys-reedy-creek-could-mean-taxpayers/V2HN3MBIVFCP5EYZXT7UC4X4KA/
Florida’s gift to Walt Disney of a self-governing area of land south of Orlando was unprecedented at the time, experts say, necessitated by the fact that 1960′s Central Florida governments didn’t have the capability to host a theme park that welcomed millions of people each year.
More than 50 years later, the possible dissolution of the government that came from it, the Reedy Creek Improvement District, is equally unprecedented. ...snip...
Reedy Creek historically operates at a loss of approximately $5 to $10 million per year, per its financial reports. The current arrangement renders that meaningless since Disney is able to subsidize its own operations with theme park revenue.
According to lawmakers, though, there is as much as $1 billion in debt on the balance sheets that for which taxpayers would become responsible, possibly amounting to as much as thousands of dollars per household.
"What we haven’t seen is the dissolution of a district that is active, is of this size, and does not want to be dissolved,” Florida Association of Special Districts leader David Ramba said.
If the plan by Gov. Ron DeSantis goes through, Orange and Osceola counties would assume all assets and liabilities of Reedy Creek on June 1, 2023, much like they would if towns such as St. Cloud or Apopka dissolved.
Local governments would also absorb all of the district’s liabilities, including the enormous amount of debt on its books.Taxpayers would also be on the hook for items the company currently pays for, such as road improvements.
A similar situation played out in 2019 when commissioners voted for a $150 million renovation of Kirkman Road to accommodate Universal’s Epic Universe park, which many taxpayers called a waste.
“$150 million can go a lot farther,” one taxpayer said to leaders ahead of their vote. “Orange County is not so Epic.” ..snip..
Disney could also prevail in court, Ramba said, because state law requires special districts to be dissolved the same way they were created. Reedy Creek, he said, was not created during a special session.
In short DeSantis has shown that he is not mature enough, ethical enough or focused enough on his responsibilities to his office & constituents to even handle governing Florida let alone the USA where the repercussions of rash, ill considered and retaliatory actions have the potential for catastrophic consequences.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/disney-sues-ron-desantis-over-reedy-creek-control-rcna81587
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/21/us/reedy-creek-walt-disney-florida/index.html
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/state/2023/02/06/disney-reedy-creek-improvement-district-in-florida-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work/69875766007/