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To: ought-six
Russia is forced to sell its exports at a serious discount; that's hardly an economic boon to Russia.

That would be nice if it was true, unfortunately it is not. The problem is that games are being played. Just one example... instead of getting less than $50 a barrel for their crude they have actually been getting over $80 a barrel using under the table dealing. The same is true of all of their exports. Why? Because countries representing 90% of the world's population are ignoring all of the sanctions, and even our own European “allies” have been cheating left and right.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/urals-oil-price-is-increasingly-meaningless-allowing-russian-owned-refineries-in-europe-to-build-up-slush-funds/ar-AA17YfZC

And their trading partners have also completely ignored restrictions on their technology exports to Russia. The fact that you believe the propaganda shows only that you are gullible and prone to believing whatever you are told by your greatest war time leader, Joe Biden and his administration. The rest of the world is laughing at him and us.

I said from the very beginning that Ukraine would win by not losing.

So you have believed from the very beginning that waiting out Russia, one of the most self-sufficient counties in the world with a long history of overcoming long sieges was how Ukraine would “win”? You must be a brilliant military strategist to have come up with that strategy!

You sound very young; so, your ignorance is perhaps understandable and perhaps even forgivable.

And you sound like you escaped from a skilled care facility which is about the only place one hears the derogatory term “Sparky” from the residents. As one who is in obvious cognitive decline your ignorance is definitely understandable and forgivable. But we have both been posting here for around 20 years. I have been retired for much of that time. Fortunately, my mental capacity seems to be holding up.

Joe Biden and bodyguard

Hey ought-six it looks like you missed a turn.

75 posted on 05/23/2023 2:30:28 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

Ah, where to begin?

“That would be nice if it was true, unfortunately it is not. The problem is that games are being played. Just one example... instead of getting less than $50 a barrel for their crude they have actually been getting over $80 a barrel using under the table dealing. The same is true of all of their exports. Why? Because countries representing 90% of the world’s population are ignoring all of the sanctions, and even our own European ‘allies’ have been cheating left and right.”

For your reading pleasure:

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/russian-oil-discount-asia-buyers

“And their trading partners have also completely ignored restrictions on their technology exports to Russia. The fact that you believe the propaganda shows only that you are gullible and prone to believing whatever you are told by your greatest war time leader, Joe Biden and his administration.”

Now you are being childish, which is to be expected form a juvenile. There are technology products that are forbidden to Russia because of the sanctions, and no other suppliers for those very same products exist.

Moreover, you resort to the same old foibles so common to leftist losers, which you are aping: Assuming facts not in evidence. If you brought your argument to a competent court of law your case would be tossed out with prejudice, because your argument lacks any supportable evidence. You’re all smoke, Sparky.

“So you have believed from the very beginning that waiting out Russia, one of the most self-sufficient counties in the world with a long history of overcoming long sieges was how Ukraine would ‘win’?”

Good grief, kid; you can’t even posit a coherent simile: Russia is not under siege; it is the attacker, the besieger. But Russia, as an attacker, has historically been less than stalwart.

“You must be a brilliant military strategist to have come up with that strategy!”

Not at all. A few millenia of history support it.

“And you sound like you escaped from a skilled care facility which is about the only place one hears the derogatory term ‘Sparky’ from the residents.”

You must indeed be new to these threads, because the story of Sparky was posted a long time ago; and many of your compadres are familiar with it.

“But we have both been posting here for around 20 years. I have been retired for much of that time. Fortunately, my mental capacity seems to be holding up.”

Then act like it.


76 posted on 05/23/2023 5:38:06 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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