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To: meyer

Seems people may have missed this yesterday, lots of info at link. Reposting it.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4153672/posts?page=147#147

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12090289/Putin-Zelensky-agree-meet-African-leaders-discuss-peace-plan.html

Putin and Zelensky ‘agree to meet African leaders to discuss peace plan’
Cyril Ramaphosa spoke with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts by phone
They agreed to host ‘an African leaders’ peace mission’ in Moscow and Kyiv

Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky have both agreed to separate meetings with a delegation of African heads of state to discuss a possible plan to end the war in Ukraine, according to South Africa’s president.

Cyril Ramaphosa spoke with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts by phone over the weekend, a spokesperson for his office said. They agreed to host ‘an African leaders’ peace mission’ in Moscow and Kyiv respectively.

The leaders of Zambia, Senegal, Congo, Uganda and Egypt plan to join Mr Ramaphosa on the mission, the president said. He added that Mr Putin and Mr Zelensky gave him the go-ahead to ‘commence the preparations’.

No details were provided on the possible parameters of the talks. Mr Zelensky has previously said he would not consider a peace deal to end the 15-month war until Russian forces withdraw fully from Ukrainian territory.

[More at link]

Ukraine is losing badly, video the other day, Col.MacGregor said Ukraine has lost 300,000.

https://t.me/s/intelslava
According to one of the NATO officers who provided headquarters support for counterattacks on the flanks of the Bakhmut group on May 12, Ukraine suffered one of the biggest losses since 2014 - 1,725 people were killed.

The strikes of the 2nd Azov brigade on the southern flank and two mechanized brigades and one motorized rifle battalion on the northern flank were stopped, and the losses amounted to one regiment.

Our sources in the Armed Forces of Ukraine shared the details of the destruction of the Patriot air defense system at Zhuliany airport .

In total, there were three launchers in the positional area.

One was destroyed, the second was seriously damaged, but survived. The third launcher escaped damage.


271 posted on 05/17/2023 1:17:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks, LJ - saw it yesterday in either this thread of the old one.

And yes, I saw that they took out part of the patriot defense system. Which was probably their target. What better test of the hypersonic missile than taking out a good missile defense system, or a good part of it.

From the standpoint of Russia, this is pretty big. Actually, from the standpoint of the US, it’s pretty big too. Although the patriot system wasn’t impervious, this appears to have easily defeated it.

Of course, we can rule out the possibility that the Ukrainian soldiers operating it were incompetent.


277 posted on 05/17/2023 2:25:26 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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