Posted on 05/15/2023 11:15:27 AM PDT by Red Badger
A place where I used to work many years ago, a retired engineer was given space next to our calibration lab to work on an invention, since he was friends of the owner and was possibly a investor.
I would talk to him from time to time to see what he was doing and he told me he was working on a ‘fuel deliver system’ for engines that would revolutionize air and land travel, and get huge energy savings and reduce pollution.
Basically what he was working on was a pre-heater for fuels, gasoline, diesel or kerosene jet fuel, that would heat the fuel to a very high temperature AND AT A VERY HIGH PRESSURE to be injected directly into the cylinders or the jet’s combustion chambers.
While this idea is not new, he had some special materials he was working with that would make it practical for everyday use in cars and trucks.
I would help him from time to time if he needed some muscle putting together some of his experimental apparatus and told him when he was ready to fire it up to let me know so I could evacuate the area! He just laughed and said okay.
Unfortunately he passed away before that day came................................
thats 400 F to 750 F
“The new battery concept is not intended for smartphones or electric cars....”
Does this mean the Oxygen Ion Battery is not the new magic battery that is going to replace Edison’s batter?
Sh*t Damn Hell Poop
Sniffer has money to waste on green energy.
Bkmk
Meh.
Call me when I can buy a genuine Shipstone storage device.
Consider this:
What would you charge utilities per kwh to capture & store energy to facilitate their federally mandated requirements?
I'm seeing dollar signs. Big time. Which means incredibly higher electricity prices in both the near & long term.
That scum George Soros might have gotten out of Tesla too soon... and TAKE THAT BIDEN AND YOUR CHINESE BENEFACTORS...NO MORE BEING DEPENDENT ON CHINA FOR RARE EARTH ELEMENTS...
Does that mean it has to be heated TO 200-400C to operate, or that it heats up to 200-400C when operating? If the latter is the case the excess heat can be used to generate steam to drive a turbine generator, to partly recharge itself or run other applications.
“Does that mean it has to be heated TO 200-400C to operate, or that it heats up to 200-400C when operating? If the latter is the case the excess heat can be used to generate steam to drive a turbine generator, to partly recharge itself or run other applications.”
It needs to be at that temp to work, according to the paper referenced in the article.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/aenm.202203789
It works by diffusion of oxygen ions into and out of lattice vacancies in ceramic materials (plates) of different chemistry. No doubt this diffusion is negligible at room temp.
So it needs to be heated to that high temp to function. No doubt it will also generate heat in use, charging, discharging, and just sitting there. So yes, any heat flow from the battery necessary to keep it at a suitable operating temperature could, in part, be converted to useful work.
So it is basically just for large energy storage applications.
If it’s really that good, the anti-electricity woo-woos will find a pretext to ban it.
So the battery bank may use more power to maintain the 395-755 deg F. temperature than the power it stores?? Scale it up baby!! Energy density per volume/weight is key in my thinking, and the temp thing plus “... the oxygen-ion battery only achieves about a third of the energy density that one is used to from lithium-ion batteries” sounds like a “tech-killer” to me. We’ll see I guess.
The target market here is utility scale energy storage to back up the intermittent utility scale power sources, not mobile electric power. I don’t think it would take significant power to keep it warm. Thats why elephants dont have fur: the internal metabolic heat released goes as the cube of the animal’s length, and the surface area goes as the square. As you say, scale it up. And/Or put it in a deep mine.
I doubt the technology will go anywhere. If the left’s green new “leap and a net will appear” energy plan continues, the “scientific consensus” will suddenly call nuclear powerplants green. ( Oceania has always been with Eastasia.) Windmills and solar panels are not economic even if we had utility scale energy storage.
Also, the ceramics used in the proof of concept required lots of rare elements, the authors leave solving that as an exercise to the reader. So this is the realm of SciFi. It won’t pay off within the 20 years a US Patent lasts.
Seems we hear of a new battery breakthrough every two months from somewhere, and never again from them
FTA: The new battery concept is not intended for smartphones or electric cars, because the oxygen-ion battery only achieves about a third of the energy density that one is used to from lithium-ion batteries
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4 gallons of gas has more energy then the entire battery pack of the electric Ford F-150
This new battery is a step backward as far as energy storage.
What you are seeing is a forced economy one would expect from a tyranny. I don’t disagree our current “elites” will mis-use and intentionally force the use of bad technology for personal gain or control.
That however does not make the actual tech practical, it makes it a socio-economic weapon, nothing more. Again as a practical solution for energy needs it really has none at this time.
Just like those miracle carburetors of the 70’s.................
That’s my point:
It’s need is purely emotional, rooted in government mandates.
Agreed.
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