I don’t have a religious view of this stuff—don’t consider it the “spirit realm”.
I just think it is another part of reality—a poorly understood one—but there nonetheless.
We humans are not born with “rules of the universe” hard-wired into our heads.
We have to learn them.
We can do that by listening to “experts” and “authority figures” (bad idea in my opinion) or by listening to our experiences in front of our face.
That much like my view as well. I used “spirit realm” for lack of a better term.