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Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline
WSJ ^ | 5 May 2023 | Josh Zumbrun

Posted on 05/05/2023 9:14:25 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Satellite detection of atmospheric pollutants offers an independent look at what is going on with Russia’s economy

In particular, QuantCube tracks the amount of nitrogen dioxide, produced by the burning of coal, gas and diesel, as is common in factories

...pollution in industrial regions has continued to drop, off 1.2% over the six months ended in April and down 6.2% over the past year—more than during the worst of the coronavirus pandemic. By contrast, Russia’s official measure showed industrial production rose 1.2% in March from a year earlier.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: mineshaftgap
Because of Russia's long-term concerns with the mineshaft gap, they have been building a huge underground economy. Impossible to detect with satellites.

Near zero pollution, extreme green tech, and harvesting wild edible roots from above. Large arrays of solar panels driven by underground LED street lights. Also recycling the Soviet Union's 2500 Abandoned Nuclear Generators! https://youtu.be/NT8-b5YEyjo

President Brandon: But this is absolute madness, Ambassador! Why should you *build* such a thing?

Russian Ambassador : There were those of us who fought against it, but in the end we could not keep up with the expense involved in the arms race, the space race, and the peace race. At the same time our people grumbled for more nylons and washing machines. Our doomsday scheme cost us just a small fraction of what we had been spending on defense in a single year. The deciding factor was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines, and we were afraid of a doomsday gap.

President Brandon: This is preposterous. I've never approved of anything like that.

Russian Ambassador : Our source was the New York Times.

1 posted on 05/05/2023 9:14:25 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This is inane.


2 posted on 05/05/2023 10:02:10 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Russia may just be becoming more efficient in their use of energy over time. Hard to tell.


3 posted on 05/05/2023 10:09:30 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Yet with Moscow's penchant for wartime propaganda, to what extent should anyone trust Russia's economic information?


4 posted on 05/05/2023 10:17:03 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This looks like routine intelligence gathering.


5 posted on 05/05/2023 10:21:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

This looks like routine intelligence gathering.

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True.

It could also be part of a global industrial slow down.

Industry has been working very hard for two years to repair supply chains effected by pandemic hysteria.

Eventually inventory piles up & has to move.


6 posted on 05/05/2023 10:51:07 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: unclebankster

It is probably what the analysis indicates, industrial slowdown in Russia, contradicting their propaganda claims.


7 posted on 05/05/2023 11:06:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: alternatives?

I think if we compare economies next month theirs will look better then ours. We are in the beginning of a major banking crises. Thanks to corrupt Biden’s economic killing policies we will most likely be heading for recession this summer.


8 posted on 05/05/2023 11:07:48 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: ansel12

It is probably what the analysis indicates, industrial slowdown in Russia, contradicting their propaganda claims.

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Which is fine.

I would just the like the satellite readings on China & the United States as well.


9 posted on 05/05/2023 11:17:47 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: unclebankster

On this thread, Russia is the subject.


10 posted on 05/05/2023 11:24:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

—”This looks like routine intelligence gathering.”

YES!
But only a few snowflakes from an iceberg.
Also not even close to the latest high-zoot tech.

“This unusual bird’s-eye view of Russia’s economy comes courtesy of the European Space Agency’s Sentinel-5P satellite, launched in 2017. To monitor the release of pollutants into the atmosphere, the satellite has a cutting-edge Tropospheric Monitoring Instrument, known as Tropomi, which can detect gases such as nitrogen dioxide, ozone, formaldehyde, methane and others.”

Still very interesting because of what is not stated about current technology applied to this case.


11 posted on 05/05/2023 11:36:01 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: ansel12

On this thread, Russia is the subject.

*******

“That’s cute.”

The Russian economy is slowing down, but let’s only look at the Russian economy, not the global economy as a whole because of a narrowly written article in the WSJ.

Nope, I’m an economic ostrich that is only focused on Russia.

The economies that have been implementing “sanction stupidity” on businesses & consumers all over the globe don’t deserve any scrutiny.

“Got it.”


12 posted on 05/05/2023 11:41:35 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: unclebankster

This isn’t about the world and economics in general, it is about the war in Europe and Russia.


13 posted on 05/05/2023 11:45:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: unclebankster

“No fighting in the war room!”

Air Quality
Observations from Space, World Regions:

https://airquality.gsfc.nasa.gov/no2/world


14 posted on 05/05/2023 12:58:39 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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