Posted on 05/03/2023 10:54:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway
I ignored it because you provided nothing I can look at. It's the internet, provide a link.
Besides, I'm quite familiar with Dowd's shtick. He bases his analysis on life insurance actuarial data which contains no information about how sudden or unexpected a death was. Nor about thE see lifestyle of those who died.
It would be impossible to use that data to support your claim about athletes.
mewzilla wrote: “Here’s some food for thought.”
Here’s some real food for thought. Kirsch was fired from his own company for making dangerous claims and erratic behavior.
“As Kirsch has gone deeper into the anti-vaccine scene, many professional associates have increasingly distanced themselves from him. In May, all 12 members of CETF’s scientific advisory board resigned, citing his alarming dangerous claims and erratic behavior. Over the summer, the conflict reached his most recent startup, M10. Its board told him that if he wanted to remain part of the company he would have to stop making public anti-vaccine statements. In September, he resigned as CEO and gave up his board seat.”
ChessExpert wrote: “I have had several vaccines; none were mRNA vaccines. Other than for the Wuhan virus, how many mRNA vaccines have you had?”
mRNA is the technology of the future for vaccines, cancer treatments, etc.
And when you find one where the medical authorities blame an mRNA vaccine please post it.
You found one person in Japan who died of anaphylactic shock - a known risk of any vaccine, and one in Singapore where they think the death was probably due to the shot.
The rest of your links are either non-mRNA vaccines or not attributed to the vaccines at all - only suspected by non medical professionals.
And none are in the US.
We've given nearly a billion Covid vaccine shots in the US to date yet you can't cite one death here ruled to be caused by either the Pfizer or Moderna shots.
Doesn't that tell you anything?
Inform me.
Post one death in the US attributed to an mRNA vaccine by a medical professional.
“I know the quick reaction is to point to vaccines, but with these athletes, I am wondering how much steroids are involved?”
There’s been steroid use by athletes for decades. Have we seen this rate of “sudden death” among athletes prior to 2021?
At 32, I doubt she was still doing competitions.
You didn’t answer my question.
Your response sounds like the end justifies the means. I’ve heard it before. The American left used that type of reasoning often to defend communism in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union murdered about 60 million people. Was it worth it? Well, they got a lot of nukes and a lot of tanks. Also a lot of poor people and a lot of drunks. Bad deal in my opinion.
Fauci said something to the effect that gain of function research could lead to a pandemic, but it would be worth the risk to advance science. He funded GOF at the Wuhan Institute of virology and indeed we got the pandemic. Many more have died from the experimental mRNA vaccine. All these deaths on a promise? Bad deal in my opinion.
My question was leading towards athletes who use steroids being a higher risk group than others for mRNA vaccines.
“Post one death in the US attributed to an mRNA vaccine by a medical professional.”
Pg 34 “Cause Unknown,” by Edward Dowd mentioned two cases, one in Connecticut and one in Michigan. Two boys died in their sleep. The autopsies recorded the cause of death as “vaccine-induced myocarditis.”
I'd like to see his source for this. Was it footnoted?
If this actually happened it looks like the deaths weren't reported to VAERS as they were supposed to be.
The CDC has no records of deaths caused by vaccine-induced myocarditis.
Steroids have been around and used a very long time. No indication they are using them at any higher rate than before.
Steroids cannot account for the massive rise in athlete deaths sijce the clot shots have been given.
I should have just not said anything since I clearly failed to get my point across. I was trying to ask if the rise in athletes death rate could be related to a combination of that group being high risk due to steroid use and the clot shot. Not one or the other by itself.
“I’m quite familiar with Dowd’s shtick.”
It’s a lot better than your shtick.
Don't be so sure.
If I was going to put out a grifting anti-vax book of news clippings of people who died I'd at least not put an unvaccinated kid on the cover.
Dowd couldn't even get that right.
Well Steroid damage often occurs across years and decades. Its not usually an instant killer, so I dont really think that steroids necessarily make things acutely worse. These athletes dropping dead are dying young. I think the fact they are athletes and oxygen is super critical for their performance, with narrowing of arteries and veins with these rubbery foot long clots or clogs in the heart, I thinktyats more of a factor.
“I’d like to see his source for this. Was it footnoted?”
He provided a QR code to scan.
The book provides numerous QR codes, links, and footnotes.
“Cause Unknown” The Epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 and 2022 by Edward Dowd. I have only started to read it but am impressed and recommend it to all.
I can pretty much anticipate the quality of response: slander, mockery, quotations from “authority.” That was the response to the movie 2000 Mules. While a completly different topic, the MO was the same.
My favorite is mockery as in “conspiracy theory.” This from people who voted for “vast right-wing conspiracy theory” Clinton. They don’t realize that Hillary is a “conspiracy theorist” because none of the authorities that they rely upon told them.
A proper response would be to consider the work. Treat it respectfully and provide a quality response.
I'd love to but I'm not going to buy it just to discuss here.
I will say, from reading the Amazon reviews it sounds like a compilation of news clips, including a lot of younger athletes dying.
Even many of the 5 star reviews lament the shortage of original writing and note the lack of definitive data - just a lot of implication.
If you scan the QR code it will take you to a web site. Perhaps you could post that link here.
It’s a lot better than your shtick.
Don’t be so sure.
I’m sure, but I would be happy to reconsider after your book comes out.
ChessExpert wrote: “You didn’t answer my question.”
If it makes you feel better, ‘No, the only mRNA vaccines I’ve received are the COVID vaccines. Now, explain why that is important.
ChessExpert wrote: “Your response sounds like the end justifies the means.”
There is no rational explanation as to why you confuse my response with defense of communism.
ChessExpert wrote: “Fauci said something to the effect that gain of function research could lead to a pandemic, but it would be worth the risk to advance science. He funded GOF at the Wuhan Institute of virology and indeed we got the pandemic.”
How is that relevant to whether the vaccines are gene therapy?
ChessExpert wrote: “ Many more have died from the experimental mRNA vaccine. All these deaths on a promise? Bad deal in my opinion.”
The COVID virus has killed millions world wide. The mRNA vaccines are not experimental and they have saved millions of lives.
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