Hey I thought you and rollo and Ikeon were pretty much on the same page.Ikeon seemed to be semi-quoting a famous line of Orwell’s
I guess it depends on the issue.
In some ways, you and Ikeon are on the same page. You’re both chest-beaters. He’s defending bullies and “rough men.” You’re calling for men to “defend women as MEN.”
I consider schoolyard bullies to be cowards, and I consider white knights to be suckers.