Posted on 04/15/2023 5:06:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Most of us have seen highly-skilled Shaolin monks in movies, where they punish their opponents with an array of slick moves.
Well, in a recent kung fu boxing championship match in Guangdong, a Chinese man claiming to be a Shaolin monk was unceremoniously knocked out by his opponent in under two minutes.
The self-claimed Shaolin monk, Shi Yongjun, was up against a boxing amateur known as Ah Jun.
The match took place at a shopping mall in Guangdong last Friday (April 7), reported Chinese media.
Among the participants were professional boxers, traditional martial artists and even influencers.
Videos of Shi's embarrassing performance quickly circulated on Chinese social media, earning laughs from netizens.
In the clip, Shi, dressed in a monk's robe without gloves, started off the match by moving around Ah Jun, and gesturing frantically.
Unfortunately, his 'moves' were no match for the boxer, who knocked him down easily with two punches in the face.
Despite being floored, the 'monk' regained his composure, got up and proceeded to chase Ah Jun around the ring for another minute before getting knocked out.
While he was lying on the ground, someone asked if Shi could continue the match, and the latter shook his head, with a defeated expression on his face.
After the video of his defeat went viral, netizens started questioning if he was a real monk in the first place, reported 8world.
Even his opponent, Ah Jun, took to Douyin to call his bluff, saying that he was trying to fool others with his fake moves.
Others also began scrutinising his moves in the ring, pointing out that they were nothing like actual Shaolin kung fu.
Chinese MMA fighter knocks out two kung fu 'masters' Unfortunately, Shi isn't the only self-proclaimed martial arts practitioner to have been ridiculed online.
In 2019, a Chinese mixed martial arts (MMA) fighter, A Hu, knocked out two kung fu 'masters' in one night.
A Hu fought a Wing Chun 'master' named Ding Hao, whom he easily defeated by landing a punch flush on the latter's temple, sending him crumpling into the ropes.
His second opponent that night, a Tai Chi practitioner Song De Cai was also dominated in a similar method, receiving several punches to his face and body.
I have over 35 years in combat arts in Hopkido, Isshin Ryu Karate, Wing Chun Kung Fu, Combat Tai Chi Chaun, Haedong Gumdo, Aikido, and Lohan Kung Fu. Most boxers with a year of training can beat any “martial artist” ( karate, any kung fu style, Aikido, Hopkido, etc.). Almost no traditional martial arts pressure test their arts and they never actually fight. They train self defense with opponents doing stupid scripted moves with their arms hanging out there. I did Wing Chin for several years and was never more shocked to see it utterly fail against a resisting opponent. There is a reason that MMA works, because it uses high percentage successful techniques that work against a resisting opponent. All martial arts were designed to fight a specific threat style and most traditional arts fell into the Confusian trap of not adapting because you don’t question your elders. Boxing works, Must Thai works, Judo and Jiu Jitsu works all because they use high percentage success techniques that can be practiced against resisting opponents. The rest of it is trash. It is no surprise that the “monk” lost.
This story makes me laugh.
In the very early 1970s I worked in a shipyard. There was a Vietnamese who claimed that he knew Karate. Just in an offhand, humorous moment I made the comment that I could kick his butt. One of his Vietnamese buddies told him what I had said. He came to me and said, “Hey, I heard that you can kick my butt. Is true?” I said “Well, yes, I said it but I was simply joking so just forget about it, ok?” He said, “Well, I know karate. What you know?” I said, “I know kick butt.” He said, “Oh, no. I no fight you, Kick butt always beat karate.” I almost fell down laughing. ;-)
Boxers get hit in training. I dunno how much they actually spend deliberately getting hit. Dont really have to. They just wind up getting hit a lot.
I don’t think any boxer deliberately gets hit. They just do so they can learn to avoid it.
Well there’s a 50 year old bubble burst.
Frankly, it was over when David Carradine accidentally killed himself playing the knock out game.
It just happens in the normal course of events of training. The goal is to get hit less over time. I assume.
That sounds good but in the practice of martial arts is simply not true. I have heard so many times “ there are no superior arts, just more skilled practitioners”. Simply not true. There are techniques that work a high percentage of the time that when practiced against a resisting opponent actually work. Most traditional martial arts teach a plethora of useless techniques practiced against a willing opponent. They look amazing with a willing opponent and simply do not work against a resisting opponent.
Yes, that’s what I was trying to say.
I knew a Filipono amateur boxer. He wanted to spar with me, despite me knowing nothing about any martial art form. He could have knocked me out anytime he wanted to and wouldn’t have been able to lay a glove on him.
FMA is the stuff...
Exactly. Aikido/Hopkido looks amazing on your students. Until you actually try the techniques on people that don’t play along. For those wanting to be amused, look up Bullshido on youtube and look at some of these styles against non willing opponents. Most of what is taught is useless.
I am a little angry though. Apparently, the main part was offered to Bruce Lee and then it ended up going to David Carradine.
As I kid I remember watching Bruce Lee in the Green Hornet. He was incredible and would have been excellent in Kung Fu.
The network execs at the time didn’t think 1970s John\Jane Q. Public would watch a show with an Asian as the hero. They went with Caradine which was a mistake in my opinion.
Years ago when I was much younger I studied an Okinawan style of karate known as Goshin-Do. Got to be a brown belt, but dropped out after a while to chase booze, drugs and girls. Such is feckless youth.
Only once or twice in a tricky situation did I rely on it and it was mostly using avoidance techniques and an elbow nudge to convince the person to back off. I’ve always been of the opinion a good wrestler is the guy you want to watch out for.
You can do your best boxing punches , karate moves or whatever but if a good wrestler gets a hold of you you’re dead.
Nothing on any human is faster than a trained boxer’s fists.
In a fight between a boxer and a martial artist, bet on the boxer every time.
My style? The art of fighting without fighting.
Amateur monk. To many videos on YouTube of experienced one taking out some really bad mofos.
Amateur monk. To many videos on YouTube of experienced one taking out some really bad mofos.
it doesn’t matter how highly ranked or skilled someone is when soemoen gets a ‘lucky punch’ on them which hits just the right spot and shuts the brain down temporarily
lol i remember that scene
[[I’ve always been of the opinion a good wrestler is the guy you want to watch out for.
You can do your best boxing punches , karate moves or whatever but if a good wrestler gets a hold of you you’re dead.]]
Jui Jitsu is sort of like wrestling with skilled takedowns with nasty holds that can wreck an arm, leg, joints’ etc- skilled folks know how to exploit weaknesses and get the person into an arm-bar, choke-hold, knee-bar- etc- before the person understands they made a mistake- MMA was dominated by jui jitsu for a long time-
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