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NYC garage worker charged with attempted murder after shooting armed thief
Fox News via Yahoo ^ | April 2, 2023 | Landon Mion

Posted on 04/02/2023 10:31:08 AM PDT by grundle

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NO photograph of the intended thief, the intended murderer, and the actual assailant Charles Rodie are being allowed on-line about New York City DA Alvin Bragg’s murder charge against his victim, Moussa Diarra a white man.

Apparently, we are not going to be allowed to know to the protected one’s race.


21 posted on 04/02/2023 11:29:03 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: grundle

And they wonder way we cling to our 2nd amendment so fiercely…


22 posted on 04/02/2023 11:31:47 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda.)
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To: grundle

This is a case the NRA should take, if they had any sense.


23 posted on 04/02/2023 11:32:29 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: grundle

“Diarra proceeded to turn the firearm on the potential thief and shot him in the chest.”

They may get him in this one. As there was only one gun involved, and it was not in the hands of the thief, then the savior law in most states doesn’t apply, stand your ground. The thief had no weapon to assault Diarra with and nothing within the article indicating an immediate threat to life and property, but he shot the thief in the chest according to the article. He may have trouble with this one in such an anti gun state as New York. And without some other information other than this, Diarra was wrong as the law deals with facts not what ifs.

wy69


24 posted on 04/02/2023 11:38:26 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: grundle

Insanity reigns supreme in this 3rd world country...


25 posted on 04/02/2023 11:39:46 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: MCSETots

Your democrat party voting neighbors want you, I and everyone like us imprisoned or dead.


26 posted on 04/02/2023 11:48:27 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: whitney69

You’re dumb.


27 posted on 04/02/2023 11:58:10 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: grundle

The people have dumbed down as to the exact text of the second amendment.


28 posted on 04/02/2023 12:15:30 PM PDT by Revel
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To: grundle

Self-defense is NOT permitted in the People’s Republic of NY, citizen.

Glad we left that socialist hell hole.

It’s only gotten worse since we left.

Live free or die, baby.


29 posted on 04/02/2023 12:25:08 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: dragnet2
"Is this the victim Alvin Bragg wants to hang?"

Yep. You're not allowed to protect yourself by wrestling the weapon away from your assailant, after he's shot you twice, then using it on him, in order to keep him from injuring you further.

30 posted on 04/02/2023 12:38:02 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: MCSETots

Same situation that occurred with Jose Alba, the NY City bodega clerk who was attacked by a black man over a bag of chips, and defended himself by stabbing the attacker to death, while also fighting off the perp’s girlfriend, who was stabbing Alba. Alba was charged, but eventually released after public outcry. However, the girlfriend was never charged for stabbing Alba, as Bragg said she was defending her boyfriend.


31 posted on 04/02/2023 12:42:53 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Gen.Blather
The man then pulled a gun on Diarra, who attempted to grab the firearm. The gun was fired, leaving Diarra with a shot to the stomach and grazed in the ear by a bullet.

I’m going to suppose the DA’s theory is that once the victim got the gun he was no longer in danger.

So the victim was shot twice? How do we know the suspect was not attempting to disarm the victim before he shot the suspect?

32 posted on 04/02/2023 12:44:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: whitney69
"They may get him in this one."

*Of course, because there was no possible way that the shooter wouldn't grapple with the attendant again, in order to get his gun back, and finish the job.

*For the morons who can't figure out that this was sarcasm.

33 posted on 04/02/2023 12:46:04 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

“*Of course, because there was no possible way that the shooter wouldn’t grapple with the attendant again, in order to get his gun back, and finish the job.”

Except for two things, the article didn’t mentioned if he did go after the gun after he had been relived of it and it didn’t mention anything about the interchange other than the guy shot the thief in the chest after the gun was taken away. No time frame, no mention of a rush to attack or back away since he had already been shot, and no mention as to the injuries from the first shots before the chest shot other than they were there.

So guessing the thief would go after the gun is just a guess with no proof of it happening or appearing to possibly happen. That information needs to be displayed at the trial to fill out assumptions and guesses because of the way the stand your ground is written in New York.

The main question there isn’t whether the person could in fact have retreated with complete personal safety. The question is whether the person knew that they could safely retreat. And the reality is that Diarra had the gun and the thief had been shot at least twice during the grappling. So the possibility of retreat goes to both players. And again, none of that was mentioned in the article.


34 posted on 04/02/2023 1:16:00 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69

[And the reality is that Diarra had the gun and the thief had been shot at least twice during the grappling. ]


Diarra had been hit twice, not his assailant.


35 posted on 04/02/2023 1:33:12 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: whitney69
So guessing the thief would go after the gun is just a guess with no proof of it happening or appearing to possibly happen.

It's quite a common scenario and certainly not the first time a suspect fought to regain control of his/a weapon. In fact cops have done this, bad guys, good guys etc...

And where is the video? A New York City parking garage with no video?

36 posted on 04/02/2023 1:39:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ifinnegan

“You’re dumb.”

Snappy comeback. You waste my time unless you want to discuss the topic and having knowledge of the law might make it easier for you to do that. But at this point I have no idea whether you know or understand the law as written in New York and trolling won’t replace that. So if you continue on the current act, I won’t bother to answer you. I appreciate exchange, but not trying to get a rise out a person you know nothing about with insinuations of questionable intelligence especially when the word you used, “dumb,” is defined in Oxford’s Dictionary as “temporarily unable or unwilling to speak.” Have a good day.
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wy69


37 posted on 04/02/2023 1:40:43 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69

Ya got the players mix up.


38 posted on 04/02/2023 1:40:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: whitney69
"Except for two things, the article didn’t mentioned if he did go after the gun after he had been relived of it..."

Newspapers notoriously leave out pertinent info when publishing articles, and it's usually the info pertaining to the perp, and their actions. You wrongly said the thief had been shot twice. It was the victim that had been hit twice...once in the stomach, and another in the ear. If you, the victim took a bullet in the stomach, and one grazing your ear, could you have retreated safely? Was Diarra in any shape to be able to do that? You have no clue, nor does anyone else. All I know is that NY State Penal law says that if you have an egress to leave the scene, you must use it, but Diarra's physical condition may have made it impossible for him to do that. It's possible that the only way he could guarantee not being attacked again, was to use the amount of force necessary to disable his assailant, and he did that. It was self-defense, not attempted murder.

39 posted on 04/02/2023 1:42:08 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: whitney69
The man then pulled a gun on Diarra, who attempted to grab the firearm. The gun was fired, leaving Diarra with a shot to the stomach and grazed in the ear by a bullet.

The article leaves a lot out. As usual. According to the article, the victims was shot in the ear and stomach. Did the suspect not shoot the victim twice? Or are we supposed to believe one shot hit the victims ear and his stomach?

40 posted on 04/02/2023 1:45:44 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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