Natural Born Citizens Are The 3 Leaf Clover Kind of Citizens Not The 4 Leaf Clover Kind

The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 18 Mar 2023 - 17 Mar 2023 | CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)

[ansel12]

While JFK’s allowing federal employees to unionize was a body blow, his immigration dreams for a replacement population of Hispanic Catholic and non-white voters, and chain migration coming true in honor of his death, was what killed America.

[Robert DeLong]

his immigration dreams for a replacement population of Hispanic Catholic and non-white voters, and chain migration coming true in honor of his death, was what killed America.

Can you back up those claims. I was 11, and not really into politics. But I've never heard those claims, though his brother Teddy was involved in doing that very thing.

Not saying it isn't true, just that I have never heard that claim before. I would love to learn more. I probably thought, without examining it, that it was a Democrat agenda.

[ansel12]

I’ll do this in a couple of posts.

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s.

In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960.
In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin.

After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”

[ansel12]

This is the democrat party platform that JFK ran on in 1960.
Immigration:

We shall adjust our immigration, nationality and refugee policies to ELIMINATE DISCRIMINATION AND TO ENABLE MEMBERS OF SCATTERED FAMILIES ABROAD TO BE UNITED WITH RELATIVES ALREADY IN OUR MIDST.

THE NATIONAL-ORIGINS QUOTA SYSTEM OF LIMITING IMMIGRATION CONTRADICTS THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF THIS NATION. It is inconsistent with our belief in the rights of man. This system was instituted after world war I AS A POLICY OF DELIBERATE DISCRIMINATION BY A REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION AND CONGRESS.

The revision of immigration and nationality laws we seek will implement our belief that enlightened immigration, naturalization and refugee policies and humane administration of them are important aspects of our foreign policy.

These laws will bring greater skills to our land, reunite families, permit the United States to meet its fair share of world programs of rescue and rehabilitation, and take advantage of immigration as an important factor in the growth of the American economy.

In this World Refugee Year it is our hope to achieve admission of our fair share of refugees. We will institute policies to alleviate suffering among the homeless wherever we are able to extend our aid.

We must remove the distinctions between native-born and naturalized citizens to assure full protection of our laws to all. There is no place in the United States for “second-class citizenship.”

The protections provided by due process, right of appeal, and statutes of limitation, can be extended to non-citizens without hampering the security of our nation.

We commend the Democratic Congress for the initial steps that have recently been taken toward liberalizing changes in immigration law. However, this should not be a piecemeal project and we are confident that a Democratic President in cooperation with Democratic Congresses will again implant a humanitarian and liberal spirit in our nation’s immigration and citizenship policies.

[DSH]

Here's the rub. Who is on the hook to enforce eligibility? Is it state election officials? The Electoral College? SCOTUS? Or the voters themselves?

That's an excellent question, the answer to which, I think, is unclear. Article II of the Constitution specifies that only a "natural born citizen" is "eligible to" the "Office of President." On its face, this provision would not stop somebody who wasn't "eligible to" the "Office" -- for instance, somebody who was only 27 years old, say -- from running for President. But it could well be that each state (id perhaps not every state(?)) has its own requirements that only someone constitutionally "eligible to the Office" can be put on the ballot. As to that, I just don't know.

But, even there, what recourse, constitutionally, would there be if the Electors were to vote for, and elect, someone who was subsequently determined not to be "eligible"? My working assumption, and that's all it is, an assumption, is that the action of the Electors would be unreviewable. Said person, albeit otherwise "ineligible," would be the President. Impeachment and removal would be the only option to remove that person from office.

[Robert DeLong]

Thank you for providing me with more knowledge. I guess we now know the reason why both were probably assassinated. By whom & on the orders of whom will most likely never become public knowledge.

The Democrats had the trifecta supermajorities in both chambers of Congress, as well as, the presidency. But most Republicans in the northern states voted for the immigration policy changes, while southern (Democrat) politicians voted Nay, or didn't vote at all. Because they knew they couldn't win anyway, but not voting at least appeased their constituents.

But also realize that unionizing governments at all levels, allowed for Democrats to install their people in positions of power, making it all but impossible to remove them by the next administration & ensuring that the majority of government workers would vote for Democrats to keep them in power.

It was more than just a body blow. 🙂

But I stand corrected, JFK did more than I had realized to aid in the destruction of this nation. Thanks again. 👍

[ansel12]

I have posted a lot on unionizing government workers which is why I corrected your post and pointed out that it was the Federal unions that JFK implemented.

It is replacing the Americans with 3rd world immigration and increasing the Catholic vote that killed America though, it made recovery from these policies impossible.

Look at the voting data, the original core Americans vote pretty much as they always have, but they lose to the immigration voters.

[one guy in new jersey]

Or Kamala (D), or Ted (R), or Barack (D), or Panama John (R), or Bobby (R). Et Cetera, Et Cetera, Et Cetera!

[one guy in new jersey]

Good analysis. Have come to regard the Electoral College process, for good or ill, as the ultimate domestic sanitizing tool for liberal use by ineligible candidates or by candidates who successfully employed electoral fraud to put themselves in a position to take our highest office.

[one guy in new jersey]

John Sidney McCain was actually born in Colón, Panama, adjacent to but outside the PCZ, in a normal hospital there (Colón Hospital) equipped with an actual maternity ward (which the rudimentary infirmary/clinic in the PCZ at that time lacked).

Special naturalization legislation actually had to be passed a few years after Panama John McCain’s birth to retroactively enable him and all other similarly situated babies to be recognized as U.S. citizens (not Natty Born Cits).