Posted on 03/18/2023 7:31:02 AM PDT by ganeemead
They were not independent. They were seized by the Red Army, their government was replaced with Russians from Moscow, and they were annexed into the Russian Empire.
But since you like independence when will Russia be leaving Chechnya and honoring their independence?
NO country or people ever…I mean since the birthplace of civilization have murdered, raped and destroyed indiscriminately as the Mongolian horsemen.
The worlds population has risen always, thorough climate change, famines, floods and the like with 2 exceptions. 10,000+ years and 2 exceptions:
Black Death of Eurasia
Mongol Expansion
It’s fine to hate Russia and to say they are bad but it’s not accurately in the slightest to say they are worse than Temujin’s bunch.
Those are your words -- not mine.
The intent of that post was to point out the absolute hypocrisy of our so-called leaders -- and over many, many years.
We are being manipulated by deep-state and political messaging from many sources to claim that what the Russians are doing is acting like a mad tyrant.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Here are a few reasons why Russia is threatened by our aggression....
-doubled the size of NATO in 20 years
-placed missiles directly on the countries bordering Russia
-launched a color revolution in Ukraine in 2014 to "regime change"
-Made agreements to solve Ukrainian crises -- but reneged on those agreements (Minsk accords)
-Western leaders admitted that the Minsk accords were nothing more than a delay tactic with no intent to comply
-launched clandestine color revolutions globally to regime change sovereign countries (Georgia, Iran, Chili, Venezuela, Egypt, Lybia, Syria, Arab Springs and many more)
-Color Revolution in Taiwan
-Threatened China over Taiwan -- a part of China
So, please tell me, if you were Putin and saw all of the above take place and did not expect a Russian regime change or invasion by the west (US), what would you do? I can answer that. The same as we did by invading all those sovereign countries.
That's the rule -- not the exception.
If you want to make an intelligent decision, you want accurate facts -- not the propaganda and blatant lies fed us by our so-called leaders.
Because by taking only parts of countries, like South Ossetia, Transnistra or the Donbas, then freezing in the conflict, russia prevents Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, respectively from joining the EU and/or NATO, and thus finally freeing themselves fully from russia, their historic colonial overlord, without having to expend the resources to subjugate and pacify those entire nations completely and turning them into new Afghanistans for itself. Just turns out the Ukrainians got sick of being pushed around, and punched the bully back.
Ukraine was invaded in 2014 in the course of a cowardly sneak attack by Russian forces pretending to be “Little Green Men”.
Full stop.
The explanations for the invasion only came later.
You do a horrible disservice to the name of Jan Sobieski by using that name in the service of your masters in Russia. He fought for freedom and you serve Putin.
Have you no shame?
wrong
whipping boy Serbia
was a Clinton desperation ploy
to force Israel to surrender
to the plo
the walk on the mount
broke the cabal
this is diversity - marxism all over again
Israel is the real target again
“They were looking for the slightest excuse that they could find”
Link please.
“No need for link. Putin has said many times,and he’s been quoted many times. Look it up!”
So you’re pulling it from your Neocon talking points, I assume, since he NEVER said either. That’s why I asked you to BACK UP what you claimed.
For others, here are his lies again:
“He didn’t consider NOT INVADING, and only considered taking over Ukraine”
“so, his goal has been to reconstitute the old USSR”
“That’s not how aggressive countries work, and Russia has been an aggressor since, forever.
So has EVERY ONE of our NATO allies, including ourselves.
Again, all NATO had to do was AGREE to Russia’s request, and the 85% of the world that is NOT sanctioning Russia may well have joined the Neocons, had Russia still invaded.
“Don’t be lazy. Google is your friend. And Bing, if you don’t know how to use Google.”
Again, here are his lies again:
“He didn’t consider NOT INVADING, and only considered taking over Ukraine”
“so, his goal has been to reconstitute the old USSR”
There is no need to provide links to the stories as they have been posted multiple times on this site and in discussions you have participated. Most people have already accepted this, but you're either engaging in 'selective memory' or your two functioning brain cells have decided not to play the game of pass the electron this morning.
“All you have to do is find it.”
I agree he said that, but when did he call to “to reconstitute the old USSR”?
The point is that he has no interest in doing so, and never said he did. For example, the last thing he wants, in my opinion, are managing the places that hate Russia, which includes Western Ukraine and the Baltics...and BOTH were part of the Soviet Union. Probably the same for the Central Asian Republicans.
“There is no need to provide links to the stories as they have been posted multiple times on this site and in discussions you have participated.”
So your claim is that if you keep posting THE SAME LIES here, they somehow become true?
By the way, in case anyone is wondering what these lies are, here they are (again):
“He didn’t consider NOT INVADING, and only considered taking over Ukraine”
“so, his goal has been to reconstitute the old USSR”
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