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To: daniel1212
Empire of the Summer Moon S.C. Gwynne

"If you go back through Comanche history, you see that they were the ones who stopped the Spanish from coming North," he explains. "Why did the French stop coming west from Louisiana? Comanches. ... Here was why the West Coast and the East Coast settled before the middle of the country. Here was why there was basically a 40-year wait before you could develop the state of Texas or before other Plain states could be developed."

"There was even an attempt at one point to deny that Indians were warlike. Comanches were incredibly warlike. They swept everyone off the Southern plains. They nearly exterminated the Apaches.

"The Comanches were kind of like the Spartans. Because of their incredible military mastery, which derived from the horse — they were the prototype horse tribe, the tribe that could do more with the horse than any other tribe could. Because of that, it was a military community and their old way of life was supplanted by the new way of life which mainly had to do with war. So they pretty much hunted buffalo ... and started war. And they were amazingly stripped down in that they didn't have social organization or religious organization. They didn't weave baskets. They had a very stripped-down culture. So within that culture the boys learned to hunt and ride at a very early age and they would become a warrior in their midteens."

59 posted on 03/07/2023 4:45:15 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

Yep


71 posted on 03/07/2023 5:18:36 PM PST by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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To: tlozo
This is an excellent book, btw.

This whole thread surprises me, because I thought it had been established that the Comanche was (by far) the fiercest human being on the continent.

Although it's pretty clear that others here know this subject better than I do.

85 posted on 03/07/2023 6:33:29 PM PST by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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